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Re: 186: POLL

Postby iiipopes » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:10 pm

Voisi1ev wrote:http://i.imgur.com/h53RQG8.jpg

Maybe it deserves its own thread, but the school I teach at picked up this horn a couple years back. It came with the recording bell! Makes me want to join a polka band. Plays like a 186...however you take that :P


That's what mine used to be before 1) it had the retrofit St Pete bell fitted to it; and 2) I put my Besson 17-inch BBb bell on it to turn it into a "Bessophone."
"Bessophone" w/ 2-piece Imperial Blokepiece,
Lexan 32.6 Modified Helleberg rim & modified .080 extender
Wessex BR115 w/ Wick Ultra SMB6
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Re: 186: POLL

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:22 pm

The old one here has a small-taper mouthpipe and offers a remarkably "mellow" sound. (Some label this type of sound, "covered").
In comparison, the one (a 4-valve) that I bought new in 1974 (an instrument made c. ten years after the one that I'm discussing, above)
also featured a small-taper mouthpipe, but the sound was not as "covered".

(If the person who posted that gigantic picture would edit it down to c. 40% and re-post it, this thread will be
easier to follow...just fwiw.)
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Re: 186: POLL

Postby Mark Finley » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:25 pm

I took out the img tags
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Re: 186: POLL

Postby toobagrowl » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:56 pm

I've only played and worked on one OLD (circa. 1960-ish) Mira. 186 BBb, and liked it better than the modern versions.
To me, it sounded sweeter. Other than the 4TH valve circuit being slightly too short, it played well in tune and had good response.
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Re: 186: POLL

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:37 pm

toobagrowl wrote:I've only played and worked on one OLD (circa. 1960-ish) Mira. 186 BBb, and liked it better than the modern versions.
To me, it sounded sweeter. Other than the 4TH valve circuit being slightly too short, it played well in tune and had good response.


yup...That was a problem with the Bb's, including the 185 model.
The purpose of the funny-angle (and long) 4th valve slide on the C version is to be able to play an in-tune low F with 4 valves.
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