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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:37 am

It was shipped today, and according to the tracking, should arrive at my house in the morning

One day shipping from England to Dallas. Amazing
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby KiltieTuba » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:45 am

That must have been expensive to ship.
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:32 am

not at all!
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Casca Grossa » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:26 pm

Once you've had some time with that beast, you must post video!!!
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Wyvern » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:46 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:That must have been expensive to ship.

Surprisingly FedEx prices to ship by air from Wessex UK for smaller horns (not full size tubas) are no more than FedEx ground within US. And usually delivery is next day.
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby KiltieTuba » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:30 pm

Wyvern wrote:
KiltieTuba wrote:That must have been expensive to ship.

Surprisingly FedEx prices to ship by air from Wessex UK for smaller horns (not full size tubas) are no more than FedEx ground within US. And usually delivery is next day.


Whoa!
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:21 am

well it arrived.

That's all I"m going to say for now. waiting on Jonathan to get back to me about some issues
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby joshealejo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:24 pm

May I ask how much are taxes in the USA? Here in Peru the ADUANAS always ask for high prices when something comes from other country. I have seen that people in USA buy from overseas with frecuency, It is not expensive?
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:27 pm

I didn't pay any taxes, just the sales price
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:04 pm

update. Waiting on a repairman to give me an itemized list of everything that was wrong with the horn when it arrived and what it would cost to fix it. Most of it should be covered under warranty. I still haven't gotten to play it for more than a couple minutes at a time because of the issues.
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby KiltieTuba » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:48 pm

What exactly happened during shipping?
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:02 pm

It wasn't all in shipping. The leadpipe was very loose, which shifted during shipping and dented the bell. it was so loose there actually might be an air leak around it. Jonathan thought somebody got carried away with the buffer, and took off too much metal

one of the valves was way out of alignment, the slide needed a little help, the friction lock was so loose the horn would flop around even with the collar tightened all the way (more overbuffing), and the hagmann valves were rough.

I mentioned to Jonathan that there is no reason to put fake hagmann valves on this horn. Put regular rotary valves on it, and he can stop hearing the Cat calls of "CLONE" and in the end he'll have a horn that is more reliable to play. Even real hagmann valves are a PITA
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:29 am

OK got the estimate back from the Repair shop and forwarded it to Jonathan. Waiting on him to authorize the warranty work, and get the parts we'll need from China. The repairman urges we don't try to enlarge the friction lock of the trombone, but instead get new parts.
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:16 am

OK, Jonathan is going to cover the cost of repairs and get me the parts I need. That's exactly why I paid extra for the wessex instead of getting the Schiller, because I would have been SOL dealing with Jim laabs.
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Dubby » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:25 am

Mark Finley wrote:OK, Jonathan is going to cover the cost of repairs and get me the parts I need. That's exactly why I paid extra for the wessex instead of getting the Schiller, because I would have been SOL dealing with Jim laabs.


Here's to hoping for a decently quick turnaround so that the rest of us, and you of course, can get some videos of it in action!
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby pgym » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:37 am

Mark Finley wrote:It wasn't all in shipping. The leadpipe was very loose, which shifted during shipping and dented the bell. it was so loose there actually might be an air leak around it. Jonathan thought somebody got carried away with the buffer, and took off too much metal

one of the valves was way out of alignment, the slide needed a little help, the friction lock was so loose the horn would flop around even with the collar tightened all the way (more overbuffing), and the hagmann valves were rough.


Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the thoroughness of the "inspection" that purportedly takes place before an instrument is shipped.
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:40 am

most of the problem here is that it's a clone of an overly done and needlessly complicated instrument.


Jonathan would be better off keeping the Bell and slide, but coming up with an entirely new valve section based on more tried-and-true technology
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Wyvern » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:47 am

Mark Finley wrote:Jonathan would be better off keeping the Bell and slide, but coming up with an entirely new valve section based on more tried-and-true technology

We are going to be doing exactly that! These contrabass trombones in their current design are too prone to technical problems
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby DouglasJB » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:18 pm

Would Thayer Valves or just standard Rotary valves have less technical problem?
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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

Postby Mark Finley » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:57 pm

I will say that standard rotors would be preferred. Bass trombones use them, tubas use them, there is no reason a contrabass trombone shouldn't use them. The hagmann valves are a pain to maintain, and of course the Chinese versions aren't any easier
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