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Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:16 am
by bloke
Having disassembled both Chinese interpretations of Hagmann valves and Chinese interpretations of Thayer valves, to me (only my opinion here:), they more resemble "mock-ups" of those types of valves than they do replicas.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:33 am
by Mark Finley
Hope to have my contra back from the shop soon. Jonathan picked up the parts we needed while he was in China. Hopefully they are an improvement over the originals

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:18 pm
by Mark Finley
Here's an update.

The repairs on the contra didn't help the fact that the valves were terrible and it has some incredibly stuffy notes. After talking to Jonathan, we decided the best thing to do is just hold off until the new model is released in early summer, and he's exchange the one I have for the new model.

I am very pleased to report that the new contra is 100% better than the old one, and I think wessex has a great offering for the market. The first non-clone contra on the market for less than 3000,and also the first one with modular tuning options for the valve slides, which is something that I don't even think the really expensive models offer.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:28 pm
by Mark Finley
Here's a pic of me playing it. It doesn't look like a contrabass because I'm so tall, but it is one. I GREATLY prefer the C tuning for the thumb trigger, it feels more familiar

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:36 am
by timothy42b
How are the ergonomics?

It looks a bit nose heavy, which I find uncomfortable but doesn't bother some people.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:03 am
by Mark Finley
I found the new one to be much better balanced and comfortable than the old one, the triggers felt much better. Yes it's heavy, it's a contrabass trombone, they are always going to be heavy

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:21 am
by bort
Heavy, yes... but unbalanced?

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:45 am
by Mark Finley
I don't think so, it seems balanced to me. I will test it one more time this weekend at tmea

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:08 pm
by rumhud
I thought it felt really well balanced, too. I was also expecting it to be a lot more difficult to play, based on past contrabass trombone experiences I've had.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:27 pm
by Mark Finley
Agreed, probably the most natural feeling contra I've played

The traditional bass trombone tuning of the valves has a lot to do with that, but there is a price to pay. You wind up having to use 5th position more often, which is a long way out there on a contra slide

Easy for someone my height , not so easy for everyone

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:40 pm
by Bob Kolada
Can you tune the valves to C and D and just reach out for low G and Gb?

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:51 pm
by Mark Finley
The one I played was C/Db combined A

Not sure of all the modular combinations yet

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:36 am
by bububassboner
The first valve can be tuned to either D or C. The second valve can be tuned to either Db or Bb. That way you could do either F/C/Db/AA (I call this the American tuning) or you could do F/D/Bb/Ab (I call this the European tuning) you could in theory mix and match to an extent. The first valve slides do not fit into the second valve.

I actually learned the European tuning first as I started learning contra in Germany and that was the typical tuning. I do however find the American tuning easier on my brain. Certain big licks work better on one or the other so I just made it so you could have both.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:16 pm
by Mark Finley
very excited to get this trombone when they are in production. My daughter and I are going to ITF this year, and it will be great for the mass reading sessions.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:30 am
by Mark Finley
Just got the shipment notification for the new model! I'll have it in a couple of days. Can't wait! Just in time for me to get some practice in on it before ITF.

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:24 pm
by Mark Finley
Got It today! This is the 3rd wessex instrument I've gotten from England the day after it was shipped. Amazing

The trombone is a big improvement over the old one. I'm going to enjoy playing this one.

I'll post some pics later

Re: My contrabass trombone obsession

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:42 pm
by ren
the shipping turn around is fantastic!