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What happened to KING??
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:40 pm
by USStuba04
i just realized that there is only ONE place selling new King tubas...
and it wasn't who i thought it would be...
is dillons and brasswind still gonna carry these???
also.. how do these play as far as intonation and projection...and all that good stuff????
i thought they were pretty good...???
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:09 pm
by punk_tuba
i bought a king 2341 from dillons last month..........at the time i believe it was the only one.
i'm sure they could get more because they are an authorized king dealer
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:11 pm
by punk_tuba
also.............
the intonation on the horn is fantastic...............w/ the slides in their proper place i'm within 5 cents of every note...........even the privaledge tones are in tune.
the sound that this horn projects is great.
i don't want to tute my horn (no pun intended)............but honestly
do yourself a favor and try one.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:53 pm
by Dan Schultz
I hope there continues to be a distinction between some of the old US names in tubas... now that most all of the old US names are owned by one company.... Conn-Selmer (Steinway). We repair guys are bound to suffer some real horror stories trying to get parts. I tried to buy some Holton (now LaBlanc... also owned by Conn-Selmer) bottom valve caps a few weeks ago and ended up getting them from a fellow repairman after getting the run-around from three companies.
http://www.conn-selmer.com/
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 8:55 am
by MartyNeilan
I believe I have uncovered the scandal behind this.
The name King is being phased out for political reasons. The name is both sexist (King, as oppossed to Queen) and imperialist, as it implies royality and a division of classes.
There is a similar reason behind Conn, as the name suggests an activity that is immoral and unlawful in virtually every culture.
Conversely, the York name is experiencing a rebirth. The real reason behind the demise of York was because of the association of its name with the city that everyone loved to hate (in part due to the Yankees). However, in our post 9/11 culture it has once again become fashionable to "I Love New York" so the name is now in its present renaissance.
Yamaha is also considering renaming its imports in English speaking nations as the proximity of "ma" and "ha" could lead the unwitting consumer to believe the company was covertly laughing at his or her mother.
Don't even get me started on "B&S"
Re:Marty Neilan and the scandal behind this...
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:03 am
by kegmcnabb
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:51 am
by Chuck(G)
...and the Europeans are doing likewise.
To dispel the image of a impersonal money-grubbing corporate entity making nothing but big heavy horns, Meinl-Weston will be changing its names to Yoursl-Wesgram.
Likewise, to avoid any sexist associations, Besson, Willson and Kalison will be renaming their enterprises to Besperson, Willperson and Kaliperson, respectively.
Alexander will be abbreviated to the non-sexist "Alex".
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:58 pm
by Mark
Chuck(G) wrote:Likewise, to avoid any sexist associations, Besson, Willson and Kalison will be renaming their enterprises to Besperson, Willperson and Kaliperson, respectively.
Didn't work.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:07 pm
by JCalkin
MartyNeilan wrote:I believe I have uncovered the scandal behind this.
There is a similar reason behind Conn, as the name suggests an activity that is immoral and unlawful in virtually every culture.
A couple of years back, Conn approached one of my former teachers and suggested that they sponsor him. He refused due to their not having an F tuba (his primary axe), but I said he ought to do it just so he could call himself a "Conn-Artist".
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:08 pm
by Dylan King
MartyNeilan wrote:The name King is being phased out for political reasons. The name is both sexist (King, as oppossed to Queen) and imperialist, as it implies royality and a division of classes.
I guess I'm all of the above.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:54 pm
by Chuck(G)
Mark wrote:Chuck(G) wrote:Likewise, to avoid any sexist associations, Besson, Willson and Kalison will be renaming their enterprises to Besperson, Willperson and Kaliperson, respectively.
Didn't work.
Okay, how about Kalispawn?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:06 pm
by MaryAnn
Mark wrote:Chuck(G) wrote:Likewise, to avoid any sexist associations, Besson, Willson and Kalison will be renaming their enterprises to Besperson, Willperson and Kaliperson, respectively.
Didn't work.
Right. Equally sexist would be:
Bessperdaughter
Willperdaughter
Kaliperdaughter
MA, who kind of likes the name "Alex"
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:25 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
MaryAnn wrote:Kaliperdaughter
= female offspring who makes precise measurements of smallish objects?
