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Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bort » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:25 pm

Was just wondering, are the differences between these tubas *striking*, or more personal preference? I owned a Neptune briefly,and wish I had kept it a while longer. I know the PT6 and MRP are quite similar (and it seems like people prefer the MRP over the PT6), but are the differences really huge, or more like incremental improvements?

If nothing else, there are a few Neptunes for sale here, and this might be helpful for folks besides me...?

Thanks! :tuba:

(PS, the best improvement beyond the Neptune for me would be "fits in my car." That 20.5" bell was the deal breaker for me, unfortunately.)
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:54 pm

This is how I see it

The neptune is a real 6/4 horn, with all the thickness of tone that you would expect.
the Pt-6 is a little smaller, but maybe a bit more nimble, but without the "hand of God" sound
the MRP is more or less in between the two (I think) but feels as responsive as a PT6

I had a PT6 in my house last week, and it didn't have the depth of tone as my Cerveny 601, but it could dance rings around it, response wise
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bort » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:47 pm

Thanks Mark. To me, the Neptune is sort of a 6/4, but a little different. It has a gigantic bell, but the rest of the horn isn't quite as "BA" as other BATs. Either way, it's a huge tuba, and size classifications don't really matter.

I have interest in all 3 tubas, and have read reviews from a few years ago on the board here. Curious if they are all more similar than they are different.

My thoughts:
Neptune -- beautiful, easy to play, sounds nice, bell seems way too big (also doesn't fit in my car)
PT6 -- newer ones are plentiful (easy to find, but everyone has one) and can sound a bit vanilla, the good old ones are great but harder to find
MRP -- newer model, hard to find used or at any real significant savings over new. The few I have heard in action are incredible (although also played by incredible players!)

I'm probably rambling, having trouble organizing my thoughts!
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby michael_glenn » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:02 pm

I love my PT-6. In my experience, the 6 has the best response, intonation and dexterity. The other two were good tubas. But the 6 was the easiest to control while still having a great breadth of sound and the presence I was looking for. Hope this helps! For what it's worth, mine is anything but vanilla.
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bort » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:07 am

Thanks, Michael. Everything is helpful! Maybe "vanilla" is the wrong word, but sometimes I have found the sound to be a little less "distinctive" to listen to. Definitely a good tuba sound, but something to it that I can't identify. Perhaps it has to do with the American tuba design and genealogy?
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby michael_glenn » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:26 pm

I find that the PT-6 is not a horn made for edge. It's just a warm, brass, double bass kind of sound.
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bort » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:49 pm

That is probably what I am trying to describe as well. I can't recall if there was much edge to the Neptune, but with a 20.5" bell, I don't recall it. The MRP probably wins out in this regard, then. The Neptune is just such a good looking tuba, though!
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bloke » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:10 pm

bort wrote:That is probably what I am trying to describe as well. I can't recall if there was much edge to the Neptune, but with a 20.5" bell, I don't recall it. The MRP probably wins out in this regard, then. The Neptune is just such a good looking tuba, though!


Have you tried the piston-valve Chinese copy ? :P
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bort » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:11 am

bloke wrote:Have you tried the piston-valve Chinese copy ? :P


2x dream come true! :roll: :P
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Re: Neptune vs PT6 vs MRP

Postby bort » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:04 pm

Bump... Any other thoughts?
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