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Wilder

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:03 pm
by tubabike
Wilder wrote a book of duets for tuba and horn. The Wilder piano trio is great as well. The Mozart horn duets are great if both of you can transpose.

Have fun!

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:22 pm
by BVD Press
If anyone is interested, I have a set of Horn and Tuba duets I have used with my wife for many years. Telemann, Bach, etc.

Just email me off the list and I will send along a .pdf file.

Disclaimer: There may be a few clunkers of notes in the charts. I have corrected them on paper, but never got the corrections into the computer.

Re: Wilder

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:35 am
by Tom
tubabike wrote:Wilder wrote a book of duets for tuba and horn.
What is the title of this book and where can it be purchased?

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:15 am
by BVD Press
apparently: Margun Music - catalog now handled by G. Schirmer ..??
Margun is now distibuted by Shawnee Press. The rental works, not sure what they are, go through G Schirmer.

Sheet Music Service of Portland

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 12:31 am
by tubabike
This is were I purchased the Wilder Duets.

1 800 452 1133

Good Luck!

Another Option

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:24 am
by crbarnes
I have a book of William Presser's duets (7 of them) for tuba and french horn. I bought them in a lot off Ebay and don't know if they are still in print. If interested and they are out of print, email me off line.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:06 am
by BVD Press
2 more options for Horn duets:

1. Make the Horn player transpose Bass Clef (Tuba) duets. They should be somewhat used to tranposing.

2. Have the Tuba player transpose the Horn duets! We steall a bunch of their music anyway (Schumann, Strauss, etc.). Why not the duets too.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:15 pm
by corbasse
BVD Press wrote:2 more options for Horn duets:

1. Make the Horn player transpose Bass Clef (Tuba) duets. They should be somewhat used to tranposing.

2. Have the Tuba player transpose the Horn duets! We steall a bunch of their music anyway (Schumann, Strauss, etc.). Why not the duets too.
Most horn duets have the 2nd horn up to about sounding Bb-C an octave above middle C. Quite high, but if you take the time to transpose both parts, there's a LOT of literature. (and, taking it down a third to a fifth makes it easier on the chops for the horn as well)
Especially the early duos are fun due to the typical Cor Basse acrobatics in the 2nd horn :)

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:51 pm
by BVD Press
Most horn duets have the 2nd horn up to about sounding Bb-C an octave above middle C. Quite high, but if you take the time to transpose both parts, there's a LOT of literature.
Try adding 3 flats (I think it is 3) to the key signature, reading up a step an d pretending the Horn part is no Bass Clef! This should be a chop buster and you will get the correct pitches. It might take a bit, but once learned you have a ton of new duets, solos, etc. to choose from!![/quote]

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:59 pm
by MartyNeilan
Assuming the 2nd part is for horn in F (no guarantees) you can play it using trumpet fingerings (middle C=open) on an F tuba.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:49 pm
by corbasse
BVD Press wrote:
Most horn duets have the 2nd horn up to about sounding Bb-C an octave above middle C. Quite high, but if you take the time to transpose both parts, there's a LOT of literature.
Try adding 3 flats (I think it is 3) to the key signature, reading up a step an d pretending the Horn part is no Bass Clef! This should be a chop buster and you will get the correct pitches. It might take a bit, but once learned you have a ton of new duets, solos, etc. to choose from!!
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Hmm. I'm getting confused now... ;)

And: don't forget in a lot of these duets the 2nd part jumps from bass to treble clef and back, and the bass clef is in the wrong octave :shock: :?

Re: Tuba-French Horn Duets

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:40 am
by tclements
the Frackenpohl is really fun to play & rehearse. the audience seemed to enjoy it, also. VERY playable!

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:16 pm
by MaryAnn
BVD Press wrote:2 more options for Horn duets:

1. Make the Horn player transpose Bass Clef (Tuba) duets. They should be somewhat used to tranposing.

2. Have the Tuba player transpose the Horn duets! We steal a bunch of their music anyway (Schumann, Strauss, etc.). Why not the duets too.
Most amateur horn players can only transpose in Eb treble clef, unless they have a lot of orchestra experience; and even then the parts they have had to read are generally simple, holding to the standard partials note positions in the clef.

Almost ALL horn players cannot read C bass clef; bass clef generally appears only for horn in F, with rare exceptions, and you ought to hear what comes out when someone is sight reading one of those exceptions!

hmmm...brain trying to figure this out....could you use C fingerings on an F tuba and read a horn part and have it come out right? I don't think in fingerings usually, just pitches.

MA

Re: Tuba-French Horn Duets

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:12 am
by FarahShazam
We play horn duets and Sean reads the trebel clef as bass clef and I play my part in Eb horn. We also play tuba duets and I'll transpose them as well.

Re:

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:33 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
MartyNeilan wrote:Assuming the 2nd part is for horn in F (no guarantees) you can play it using trumpet fingerings (middle C=open) on an F tuba.
I think that the F tuba would sound an octave lower than expected, if you use trumpet fingerings.....

Re: Tuba-French Horn Duets

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:20 am
by Wyvern
JPNirschl wrote:It would be beneficial to both players if the horn was not referred to as 'French'.
In origin, the horn is Bavarian (German) and why it's referred to as French is defying my belief.
I have not heard that before - interesting!

I enjoy playing duets with a horn playing friend. The sounds compliment each other perfectly :)

No doubt the horn is my favourite instrument after the tuba. I wish I could manage that small mouthpiece to play one.

Re: Tuba-French Horn Duets

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:03 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
Neptune wrote:I enjoy playing duets with a horn playing friend. The sounds compliment each other perfectly :)

No doubt the horn is my favourite instrument after the tuba. I wish I could manage that small mouthpiece to play one.
I have often thought that the tuba is really just a big French horn! (Without the hand in the bell, that is!) :D

Re: Tuba-French Horn Duets

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:15 am
by eupher61
yep, it comes out an octave lower using trumpet fingerings on F tuba. So what?

there's a trick for CC too, add 2 (3??) flats and use BBb fingerings. It's been a while... :tuba:

Re: Tuba-French Horn Duets

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:55 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
eupher61 wrote:yep, it comes out an octave lower using trumpet fingerings on F tuba. So what?
Well, I just mention it to bring out the point that we would be distorting the music, from it's original intent. However, we as tuba players do that all the time, because of limitations of our repertoire, but we should always be aware of what we are doing, when we do it.