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Who pulls their second slide?

Poll ended at Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:18 pm

I never pull my second slide while playing
26
53%
I only pull my second slide because of a kicker on the slide
4
8%
I pull my second slide and do not have a kicker
8
16%
I would use my second slide if it could be reached/had a kicker
11
22%
 
Total votes : 49

Pulling second slide while playing

Postby bububassboner » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:18 pm

Hey all,
I'm a little curious as to how many people actually pull their second slide while playing. I know I'm more likely to move the second slide if it has a kicker, but I want to see how many of you use the second slide while playing.

Thanks for voting!
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby bloke » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:21 pm

When I had a RM 5/4, I used it for "double"-low D, and for 2-4 C# (just below the staff). It corrected those math problems.
I found few other uses for it.
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby Adam Peck » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:55 pm

I use the 2nd slide kicker on my Rudy 3/4 CC regularly...for C# F# below the staff and E-C# below that. Alternate fingerings are not my first choice and I can get the low C# before the pedal out by kicking the 2nd slide and pulling the 1st slide.
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby T. J. Ricer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:12 pm

There should probably be an option for "I would use my second valve slide if I had a kicker (or could reach it)"
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby bububassboner » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:26 pm

I added that in. Seems so far most just don't use that slide while playing.
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby mbeastep » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:09 am

To address the quite high F# in the staff I attached a rod to my second valve slide on my PT-6P. This is really the only note that I use that slide for, but it is very helpful. It is not vented.

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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby the elephant » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:40 am

I tune my low B. The 2nd valve pitches from the5th partial up are in tune. My 2nd line B is sharp when the slide is tuned this way, so I will pull for that note when it is longer than a few beats. Tchaik Romeo & Juliette, for example...
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby Chris Olka » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:28 am

I do pull second occasionally, depending on the horn. Have had pull rod installed on both my York tubas. Have also used the kicker when installed on the horn. Of course, design and pitch tendencies of the individual instrument dictate the usefulness of the kicker. Maybe put a revision in the poll to say kicker/pull rod.
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby Tubajug » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:47 pm

I pull for low B and low E on my BBb Frankentuba. When Dan Schultz worked on it, he moved the brace between the third valve tubing so that it could be accessed from the left side and using the pull ring. I later installed a slide-stopper so I could just yank it all the way out and not pull it off the horn. It works well for me!
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby mbell » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:09 pm

On my Cerveny Kaiser the low B is very low, so I push in the 2nd slide.

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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby the elephant » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:45 pm

mbell wrote:On my Cerveny Kaiser the low B is very low, so I push in the 2nd slide.

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My Alexander also had a horribly flat low B. The second line B was sharp. I built a slide puller using the thumb rig that worked wonders for that horn.
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby Art Hovey » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:23 pm

I use my 2nd valve slide on any tuba that allows me to.
The 4th slide is usually more convenient, but in a passage that includes both low C (or F) and low B (or E) the 2nd pull works better. Here's my favorite:
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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby YORK-aholic » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:22 pm

There isn't a response/choice for:

I'd pull it, if my 2nd slide wasn't stuck/frozen.

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Re: Pulling second slide while playing

Postby Bob Kolada » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:11 am

On 3 valve horns I tune 3 right between 23 and 13 and usually pull 2 for 123.
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