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Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 pm
by TheGoyWonder
yer 1241-based 5-valve CC is not going to have the 19" bell anyways, it's going to have a much shorter bell.
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:55 pm
by Ken Herrick
TheGoyWonder wrote:yer 1241-based 5-valve CC is not going to have the 19" bell anyways, it's going to have a much shorter bell.
REALLY?????
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:10 am
by windshieldbug
the elephant wrote:Read and follow instructions.
TNFJ!?
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:40 am
by bort
Maybe one of the old King rotary tubas?
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:16 am
by edsel585960
windshieldbug wrote:the elephant wrote:Read and follow instructions.
TNFJ!?
Asking a lot from a bunch of tuba players.
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:27 am
by bort
bloke wrote:bort wrote:Maybe one of the old King rotary tubas?
This $h!t has been going on for so very many years, we are all caricatures of ourselves.
' gotta love it...seriously.
Not sure if you are making fun of the question or the answer... I just meant that if you want something very similar in sound, maybe start with something very physically similar?
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:50 am
by Three Valves
bloke wrote:
Why not argue over which canned albacore tuna is the best?
Packed in water or oil??
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:52 am
by windshieldbug
bloke wrote:
Why not argue over which canned albacore tuna is the best?
Why not argue over which banned metaphor is the best?
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:08 am
by pwhitaker
Would a band metaphor include the phrase "no strings attached"? --- (Stream of semi-conciousness ...)
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:32 pm
by MaryAnn
I'm SHADDUPING.
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:57 pm
by iiipopes
Oh, God, I hate to admit this, but the newer 186's with the "vanilla" toned 17 3/4 inch bell comes the closest to my ears to the detachable bell Kings I played in high school, with two intonation exceptions:
1) Kings had pretty good 5th partials; Miraphones have the classic flat 5th partials;
and by contrast:
2) Kings have sharp 6th partials; Miraphones have pretty good 6th partials.
Oh, Lord, forgive my heresy....
Re: TNFJ Opinion Time
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:13 pm
by EdFirth
I've owned four of these since 1982 and used them for most of the work I did, although I did own a lot of other horns I've always come back to the Kings. To me, they don't sound like any rotary horn I've heard or played. And I own and use a rotary King sometimes. The rotary horns, to me, have a smoother sound where the piston Kings have more "turbulence". But I am able to blend with whatever else is on the job. I got to hear just about everyone at the "Rat" play on my various Kings and was always gassed with the sound. And when they went back on their B S 101's, or Meinl Weston 20's, Mirafone 186's, or Cervenys it was great but, to my ears, quite different. I used them in bands, orchestras, quintet, polka bands,the Rat tuba quartet, and a boatload of Dixieland jobs as well as Ray Charles and the Moody Blues and people always dug the sound. All that being said, there are other horns that I find are less work to play but I'm in it for the sound and those Kings make the sound that's in my head. FWIW, Ed