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Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bigtubby » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:32 pm

I've never seen anything like this, looks like a left handed 4V rotary set up to be a bell-front instrument??? Looks to be either production or very well made custom.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby Doug Elliott » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:43 pm

Looks like it was designed by a bari sax player. It totally makes sense.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bort » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:15 pm

Looks like a gimmick to get attention, and more tips.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby KiltieTuba » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:16 pm

I saw this a long time ago, figures since the video is 4 years old. Kind of forgot about it. Nice design, though seems like it's a lot of weight in front.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bigtubby » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:07 pm

bort wrote:Looks like a gimmick to get attention, and more tips.

Building (or rebuilding) a tuba to be left handed seems a lot of work for a gimmick, doesn't it? Or should we ask Oren Marshall perhaps?
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bort » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Sure looks to me like his right hand is on the valves :?:

I would expect to see a helicon in eastern Europe, this seems not much easier to hold, and on the street, more attention grabbing. This is on Charles Bridge, the epicenter of tourism in Prague.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bigtubby » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:40 pm

bort wrote:Sure looks to me like his right hand is on the valves :?:
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Imagine, if you will, playing that horn with a normal lead pipe (e.g. wrapping around the bell from front to back). Or simply compare the layout of the valve actuating mechanisms with any the thousands of European designed tubas: Cerveny nearly everything; Miraphone nearly everything, etc., etc. - in the world. Perhaps I should have said "upside down" rather than "left handed", this is not a standard tuba with a retrofitted lead pipe.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby roweenie » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:24 pm

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From the looks of this old photo, I'd say the design is "nothing new" - a "tornister tuba" design applied to a full-size horn.

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The valves on the horn in the video are set a little lower in the bugle, but it's the same principle.

My guess is it was a custom job from the get-go.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby windshieldbug » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:58 pm

Or even earlier, some civil war Over-The-Shoulder tubas came with a curved shank that one could use to change the instrument to a bell-up when the use demanded it... (and still others were adapted that way after the war was over and you weren't marching in front of the troops)
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bigtubby » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:30 pm

roweenie wrote:Image

From the looks of this old photo, I'd say the design is "nothing new" - a "tornister tuba" design applied to a full-size horn.

Image

The valves on the horn in the video are set a little lower in the bugle, but it's the same principle.

My guess is it was a custom job from the get-go.

windshieldbug wrote:Or even earlier, some civil war Over-The-Shoulder tubas came with a curved shank that one could use to change the instrument to a bell-up when the use demanded it... (and still others were adapted that way after the war was over and you weren't marching in front of the troops)

FWIW I own an original Cerveny BBb Tornisertuba and the remains of an OTS saxhorn.

My point was that the instrument in the video I posted was not accomplished by fabricating a lead pipe for an easily available modern tuba (which it appears to be) and not a "gimmick" add-on performed in an hour or so.

As I mentioned above, it appears to me to be either a production instrument or a skillfully designed and constructed custom instrument and not a quickie modification.

Examples of modern (after, say, WWI) tubas with similar layout are welcomed.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby Kirley » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:03 pm

I want one!
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bigtubby » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:26 pm

Kirley wrote:I want one!

Honestly, that's what I thought. I have a friend who lives in Prague (but is sadly uninterested in the Bohemian contributions to brass instrument design). Will ask him to put out some feelers ...
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby imperialbari » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:24 pm

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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby KiltieTuba » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:26 pm

I was expecting to see S links like on much older tubas. This has those metal linkages like on some B&S and Miraphone tubas. I would guess this is a reconfigured tuba, not a design from a manufacturer.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby Mark Finley » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:47 pm

I freaking love that tuba
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby Kirley » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:18 am

I can’t stop thinking about it!
Hey, Johnathan... : )

Also, that band was tearing it up.
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby Wyvern » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:24 am

It is an interesting concept! Do you see the bell is also removable.

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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby edsel585960 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:10 pm

Very cool horn. :)
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Re: Unusual Tuba Design

Postby bigtubby » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:10 pm

imperialbari wrote:Same man on tuba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMQXqMQkUYo

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