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Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Chris Olka » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:08 pm

Hey guys, this horn has created quite a buzz at Midwest and I got to try it yesterday. Thought I’d kick off my new video series with this one!

Hope you enjoy and Happy New Year!
https://youtu.be/BpFDiwyy25U
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:15 pm

awesome Chris, thanks for that!

I'd love to see a Eastman/Wessex Shootout in the future
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Billy M. » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:50 pm

Said this on facebook: I'm not a 6/4 type of guy but with the success of the 4/4 and how he sounds and the looks of this horn... I think I might change my mind on that.
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby MikeMason » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:00 pm

Sounds great!
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Ken Crawford » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:46 am

Sounds great. Just imagine how much better a silver one sounds! :tuba:

But on a serious note, I think many folks are going to buy a 6/4 (because they can now afford it) and learn that they don't necessarily love playing one. That they don't necessarily love the results in the hall. That a 6/4 doesn't do well in an orchestral setting if you're sitting next to a lackluster trombone section. If you're mouth is watering and you think you want to dive into BAT playing, approach with caution.
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Douglas » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:17 am

kmorgancraw wrote:But on a serious note, I think many folks are going to buy a 6/4 (because they can now afford it) and learn that they don't necessarily love playing one. That they don't necessarily love the results in the hall. That a 6/4 doesn't do well in an orchestral setting if you're sitting next to a lackluster trombone section. If you're mouth is watering and you think you want to dive into BAT playing, approach with caution.


Totally agree. Maybe there will be a good second-hand market for these instruments in the not too distant future after they figure it out.
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby DouglasJB » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:43 am

I can wait, one day I want to replace the Cerveny in my signature, but as pointed out above, I'll wait for a used one.
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby groth » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:58 am

Looking forward to the series Chris, thanks!
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby bloke » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:03 pm

There will always be a market for (bad/mediocre/OK/good) oversize tubas, whether-or-not they are appropriate for any musical genre or composition in particular.

It's related to PMS (Parked Motorcycle Syndrome).

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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:47 am

Mark Finley wrote:I'd love to see a Eastman/Wessex Shootout in the future

I am sure there will be chance to make side by side comparison at the Army Conference, TMEA and a number of other events in the next year.

Any pro who wants to do side by side shoot out, contact me for use of the Wessex. I would be quite happy to put the new TC694 Chicago-Presence [1] or TC695 Chicago-York up for comparison against anything.

bloke wrote:There will always be a market for (bad/mediocre/OK/good) oversize tubas, whether-or-not they are appropriate for any musical genre or composition in particular.

If 6/4 tubas work in the orchestra depends on the strength of the ensemble, the music played and venue being used for performance.

However in a concert band of larger size, nothing else can provides the bass foundation of a 6/4. Multiple smaller tubas just do not provide the same broad foundation. I have heard that on a number of occasions.

[1] On a personal note, I could not believe how much more responsive is the new Chicago-Presence against my once beloved Neptune
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby roweenie » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:27 am

Wyvern wrote:However in a concert band of larger size, nothing else can provides the bass foundation of a 6/4. Multiple smaller tubas just do not provide the same broad foundation. I have heard that on a number of occasions.




+1, especially if the number of basses is limited (I believe this to be the 6/4's original raison d'être)
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby bloke » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:59 am

Is it (??) instructive to remember that the original reason for "the popularization of the front-action 6/4-size C tubas in American orchestras over the past three decades" (but only after three decades of ONE being used in ONE orchestra, and Holton eventually deciding to make a knock-off, so they could claim that orchestra's brass quintet of principals played Holton) originally was:

- the original famed user's teacher rejected it, and offered it to him financed at 0% interest over a period of dozens of months (total price - adjusted for 2017 inflation - about *$3500). :|
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*...with Chinese knock-offs being priced at triple that amount...


Should all new 6/4 C tubas include a free music stand with a 20" x 12" mirror glued to the desk...or only the silver ones...??
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby bloke » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:42 pm

Wyvern wrote:...I would be quite happy to put the new TC694 Chicago-Presence [1] or TC695 Chicago-York up for comparison against anything....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby Mark Finley » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:57 pm

I'm no York expert or anything, but I'll shoukd have the opportunity to do a couple of nice evaluations in February, since I will see both horns not only at the army band converence and TMEA (I'm assuming Eastman will be at both)
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby bort » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:32 pm

Cool video.

Is it weird that this makes me want to pick up a 2165, instead of something new?
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Re: Just did a T&E video on the new Eastman EBC836

Postby bloke » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:47 pm

bort wrote:Cool video.

Is it weird that this makes me want to pick up a 2165, instead of something new?


arguably, "the best that probably could be done with a 2165" (not foggy / efficient / albeit, a bit tough on the thighs) is now property of "the collector" and, reportedly, is out on loan. /
I wonder (??) if it could be for sale...
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