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Postby bloke » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:01 pm

TubeNet Freak Jury wrote:bloke, you've posted about this several times before...We get it, so why don't you just shut the f' up...?!?!

yeah...yeah...

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hint: :roll:

Approaching an audition more like a job interview, and less like "all-state band tryouts", possibly (??), increases the likelihood of success. "Coming in 2nd" = "nothing". "Semi-finalist/finalist" = "nothing". When employed at a real job, "doing 99% of the job" = "fail". Further, realize that "ridding oneself of all performance flaws" - in order to be offered a job - results in a job that is "really-really fun" (again: not like all-state band) only about 3% of the time. Finally, a reputation for "easy to work with" is extremely valuable, and could (though you reading this may doubt it) cause "great choice #2" to be chosen over "great choice #1". :shock:

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Re: "winner"

Postby windshieldbug » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:50 pm

bloke wrote:Approaching an audition more like a job interview, and less like "all-state band tryouts"...
remove from lexicon: "winner"
add to lexicon: "job"


bloke is someone who gets it. Americans are so focused on win/loss, why do you think nerves/beta blockers are such a huge topic with working professionals? Because the standard is to play the part perfectly/as the conductor asks/with your colleagues. You can do more than that, but NEVER less. :shock:
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Re: "winner"

Postby smitwill1 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:59 pm

About “Easy to work with”: The late Jeff Rew—bass player and all around nice guy—was quoted saying “The key to a successful music career is to play your *** off and be nice to everybody. It’s sad that so many that can do the first thing don’t do the second.”

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Re: "winner"

Postby Three Valves » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:09 pm

Every time I log in some Russian babe still wants to "date" me.

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Re: "winner"

Postby windshieldbug » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Three Valves wrote:Every time I log in some Russian babe still wants to "date" me.


Edward Snowden is still tryin' to look out for you, man! 8)
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Re: "winner"

Postby bloke » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:37 pm

Three Valves wrote:Every time I log in some Russian babe still wants to "date" me.

Winner!!


sure...
Sometimes, when I'm feeling "low", I go to this site with Internet Explorer (no ad blocker), and - sure enough - I'm still extremely popular with the world's ladies. :shock:
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Re: "winner"

Postby Casca Grossa » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:58 pm

bloke wrote:
Three Valves wrote:Every time I log in some Russian babe still wants to "date" me.

Winner!!


sure...
Sometimes, when I'm feeling "low", I go to this site with Internet Explorer (no ad blocker), and - sure enough - I'm still extremely popular with the world's ladies. :shock:


Look at us...tuba players who spend our free time on this site. Of course they are going to send us ads about mail order brides. What self respecting woman wants a man that talks about scooping, swedging, lacquer vs. silver, wide slots, and listens to music that died 30 years ago?
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Re: "winner"

Postby bloke » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:23 pm

Casca Grossa wrote:...and listens to music that died 30 years ago?


Hey! I don't listen to Donna Summer; I just look at the pictures. :|
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Re: "winner"

Postby Casca Grossa » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:28 pm

bloke wrote:
Casca Grossa wrote:...and listens to music that died 30 years ago?


Hey! I don't listen to Donna Summer; I just look at the pictures. :|


Absolutely nothing wrong to listening to or looking at pictures of Donna Summer
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Re: "winner"

Postby Watchman » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:32 pm

The "all state band" thing is the real lure. I mean, here you are, some awkward kid in middle school or high school who can rock out on the tuba. You get so much attention and adulation from the band directors and other band kids when you make all state. Gee, you're really special! Your name got read on the announcements, and the yearbook might give you your own page! Also, you get to take a trip, miss school, and play in this awesome band. The rehearsals and concert are the most fun you've ever had in your life. That cute girl who plays flute from a school down state might like you. Well....she did look at you a few times when she had a few rests and the tubas were playing loud. Probably still counts. If only you could do this every day! Wait....people in these "symphony orchestras" do this everyday? How do you do that? Win an audition? You got all state and you're super good, so that should be easy. You can play "Dee Walk-your" and "Fontane dee Roma" almost from memory. You will definitely be the coolest kid from your high school in ten years. They might even invite you to play your tuba at the ten year reunion! Then they will be so sad when they have to go back to their regular people jobs, and you get to play tuba all day.

Bloke, I guess what I'm trying to say is that getting a teenager to see an orchestra audition as anything other than "the tuba Olympics" isn't easy.
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Re: "winner"

Postby bloke » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:49 am

Watchman wrote:The "all state band" thing is the real lure. I mean, here you are, some awkward kid in middle school or high school who can rock out on the tuba. You get so much attention and adulation from the band directors and other band kids when you make all state. Gee, you're really special! Your name got read on the announcements, and the yearbook might give you your own page! Also, you get to take a trip, miss school, and play in this awesome band. The rehearsals and concert are the most fun you've ever had in your life. That cute girl who plays flute from a school down state might like you. Well....she did look at you a few times when she had a few rests and the tubas were playing loud. Probably still counts. If only you could do this every day! Wait....people in these "symphony orchestras" do this everyday? How do you do that? Win an audition? You got all state and you're super good, so that should be easy. You can play "Dee Walk-your" and "Fontane dee Roma" almost from memory. You will definitely be the coolest kid from your high school in ten years. They might even invite you to play your tuba at the ten year reunion! Then they will be so sad when they have to go back to their regular people jobs, and you get to play tuba all day.

Bloke, I guess what I'm trying to say is that getting a teenager to see an orchestra audition as anything other than "the tuba Olympics" isn't easy.


point taken...and - after all - it seems unlikely that any of us could ever aspire to become the next Queen of Disco. :roll:

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Re: "winner"

Postby Three Valves » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:42 am

I doubled on bass guitar to be the King of Blue Eyed FUNK!!

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Re: "winner"

Postby bloke » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:05 pm

Many of us - in the past - likely, made a good bit more money from playing bass guitar than tuba. For me, it was an extremely easy double (branching off from intensive classic guitar studies). Wes Jacobs (a very notable-to-us tuba player, but a much-more-notable-to-the-rest-of-the-world bass guitarist) would fall into this category. Very few today (locally) know of my bass guitar competence, so I get very few calls. I have kept my finest bass guitar, as well as an acoustic/electric. I'm actually considering trading off my nicest/vintage amp for a "portable home defense system". An offer is on the table.

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Re: "winner"

Postby Three Valves » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:18 pm

Linda, Joe and Richard.

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