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Various York Engravings/Dates

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:57 pm
by Z-Tuba Dude
Does anyone know about the approximate dates of the various engravings for the York tubas?

J.W. York
York and Son
J.W. York and Company
York - Grand Rapids Michigan
York and Sons
York Band Instrument Company

Is there a chronological order?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:18 pm
by Lew
You should be able to tell from this link:

http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/jswai ... yorktl.htm

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:45 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
Thanks, Lew.

As it turns out, I am familiar with that site. I found that their references were somewhat helpful, but a little vague with regards to the actual names that would have been engraved on the horns.

While I am interested in the chronology of all of the various York engravings, I am specifically interested in this engraving:

YORK
Grand Rapids
Michigan


Does anyone know what period of time would be represented by a horn with that engraving?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:14 am
by MichaelDenney
Z-Tuba,

Are you referring to that interesting black York on *Bay? I haven't seen that style logo before either. You might check with the author of an article about York tuba models that is on the ITEA site.

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:44 pm
by MichaelDenney
Z-Tuba,
Here is the article that I was thinking of:

http://www.iteaonline.org/Journal/31N4/31N4York.shtml

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:47 pm
by Z-Tuba Dude
Thanks, Michael. That was very interesting reading.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:15 pm
by windshieldbug
Z-Tuba Dude wrote:I am specifically interested in this engraving:
YORK
Grand Rapids
Michigan

Does anyone know what period of time would be represented by a horn with that engraving?
It's a cornet, but seems to be the same...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 28251&rd=1

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:37 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
Congratulations, Harold! Please let us know how the horn turns out!

(Maybe even some pictures?....hint, hint)

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:59 pm
by Rick Denney
harold wrote:Well, the painted York arrived yesterday and can be dated by serial number to the 1925-1927 range.
I would suspect later in that period. There was apparently some variability of the label contents during the transition from the pre-1926 "J. W. York and Sons" to the post 1929 or 1930 "York Band Instrument Company." And there's no assurance that the lable spelled out the whole name. It took a while for the labels to follow the change of the corporate name. I would say that any label that doesn't have J. W.'s initials most likely follows the 1926 change of ownership.

Rick "merely speculating" Denney

Re: Various York Engravings/Dates

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:49 pm
by Dean E
Z-Tuba Dude wrote:Does anyone know about the approximate dates of the various engravings for the York tubas?
J.W. York & Sons
Grand Rapids, Mich.
(1914-1917) SN 50762
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Eb Monster, 3 top piston valves, .687 inch (17.45 mm) bore
19.5 inch (495 mm) bell
(extra patented slide loop for low pitch; bypassing that loop, the horn is in high pitch)