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Re: Observations from DC

Postby groth » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:17 pm

kmorgancraw wrote:
groth wrote:I guess it's truly up to preference nowadays as to what country you want building your horn.



It's a global economy. Your Buffet umbrella horn may already have Chinese valves in it...

What would you consider to be a Buffet "Umbrella" horn?
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby groth » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:18 pm

bort wrote:
kmorgancraw wrote:
groth wrote:I guess it's truly up to preference nowadays as to what country you want building your horn.



It's a global economy. Your Buffet umbrella horn may already have Chinese valves in it...


...but not your Miraphone!

Or your Kanstul or your St. Pete, or your Rudy Meinl or Hirsbrunner etc.. :lol:
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby lost » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:38 pm

Mark's thread reviewed horns from the DC conference.

Let's not turn this into a debate about chinese horns.
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Mark Finley » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:20 pm

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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Tubaryan12 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:51 pm

Mark Finley wrote:The festivo was very nice. It played so much better than the prototype at ITEC 18 months ago. If you want a front action euphonium, buy without hesitation

What he said. Valves were better than last year, and it did seem to blow easier. It maybe mouthpiece sensitive, but I liked the sound from my JP 274 better. If I could make it sound like the JP, I'd be very tempted because the Festivo, to me, is so damn easy to hold.
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby bort » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:29 pm

Did the Wessex and Eastman 6/4 tubas take the world by storm?
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Three Valves » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:31 pm

Wessex valves did feel better and more consistent throughout their lineup.

I liked the little John Packer 4 valve piston. (Once I figured out how the tuning slides worked) But the 379B (the piggy looking one) is about the same size and you give up much less.

Packer is really taking over the scene. Retailers like Baltimore Brass have given up on JZ and Jinbao clones.

It was fun chatting with Mark, Joe and Jonathan briefly. I was hoping to get my hands on a Miraphone 282 just for giggles but Dillon didn’t have one this year. Like I’d actually buy it... :roll:
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Three Valves » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:33 pm

bort wrote:Did the Wessex and Eastman 6/4 tubas take the world by storm?


...and the BMB. But don’t take my word for it, ask them!!
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby PlayTheTuba » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:40 pm

I thought the 6/4 Martin BBb and 6/4 top action Holton were very, very nice. I always see everyone praising Martins and now I understand why. The low range didn't play very well BUT it was such a nice tuba! I wish that Martins never went out of business :( . I now have a very strong desire to own a Martin tuba. I guess I better get my degree and a job so I can buy one when one shows up for sale again!
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Wyvern » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:58 pm

Great to meet some of you at DC!

The horns which seemed the biggest hits (and least the most played) on the Wessex booth were the Chicago 6/4 CC (majority feedback was preference for the Presence with 18” bell), 6/4 BBb Grand, BBb Helicon, Duplex euphonium, French C tuba and Gnagey Eb.

But you won’t believe me if I say how great they play, which is why Wessex is exhibiting all over the states (as well as Spain and Austria) in 2018, so as many of you as possible get a chance to try - and decide for yourself.

We will be at TMEA and I am currently in the process of arranging stop-offs on roadtrip to Texas - of which I will post as finalised.

PS Today having a rest before the long drive!
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby bloke » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:14 pm

lost wrote:Mark's thread reviewed horns from the DC conference.

Let's not turn this into a debate about chinese horns.


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Re: Observations from DC

Postby TNID » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:16 pm

Mark, it was very nice to speak with you as I was preparing to try out the MRP CC. A bit later I even got to sit and speak with Bob Tucci for a while, and he played a few things on the MRP for me.

I agree with you that the Tuono had an edge in some respects, and overall I got much more than I expected from that horn. I think the lack of traditional thumb ring made a big difference in that you could physically feel what the horn was doing much more than with other instruments.

This event was a great way for me to jump back into playing after a few years away. I went ahead with an order and should have a new silver Miraphone 1293 delivered this week. :D

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Re: Observations from DC

Postby The Big Ben » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:19 pm

Tell us a little more about the Wessex tournister euphonium. The price isn't too high and if it is necessary to carry a horn around which will play in the T-Bone/Euph/cello range, it might be handy.
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby pgym » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:02 pm

Wyvern wrote:Great to meet some of you at DC! [Others, not so much.]


FTFY.

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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Mark Finley » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:14 pm

The Big Ben wrote:Tell us a little more about the Wessex tournister euphonium. The price isn't too high and if it is necessary to carry a horn around which will play in the T-Bone/Euph/cello range, it might be handy.



I thought it played nice. It takes a little getting used to, hearing the sound come from BELOW your left ear, but it's fun, and is closer to a euphonium sound than the tuba version sounds like a tuba. I'll play it again at tmea and check intonation more Carefully

I did play the tornister tuba again, and I thought it was much better that the one I played at ITEC. That one played very stuffy for me, but this one was nice
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Wyvern » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:27 pm

pgym wrote:
Wyvern wrote:Great to meet some of you at DC! [Others, not so much.]


FTFY.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

NO! :shock:
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby FarahShazam » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:29 pm

pgym wrote:
Wyvern wrote:Great to meet some of you at DC! [Others, not so much.]


FTFY.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

?????

Yeah, he didn’t meet all Tubenetters.

I stopped by the market place/elephant room. I bought valve oil from some but not all.
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby bone-a-phone » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:45 pm

Did anybody play the Wessex F travel tuba? I was struck by how it might sit in for a portable cimbasso. Any thoughts on that?

Plus, Jonathan, are you coming back to DC for the Army trombone conference?
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Ken Crawford » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:54 pm

Wyvern wrote:Great to meet some of you at DC!
which is why Wessex is exhibiting all over the states (as well as Spain and Austria) in 2018

PS Today having a rest before the long drive!


How about the Western US? (not California)
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Re: Observations from DC

Postby Wyvern » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:22 pm

kmorgancraw wrote:How about the Western US? (not California)

Will be at ITEC North West, Central Washington University, Ellensburg on April 13-15
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