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Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:02 pm

I need a mute ASAP. Dillon has the Dennis Wick. https://www.dillonmusic.com/denis-wick- ... -tuba.html

I just don't know if this is "the" mute for me... or else a wood one http://balumusik.com/product/xl-red-mahogany-tuba-mute/

HELP... need advise!

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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Mark Finley » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:13 pm

I really am a fan of the Humes and berg 208 for that size of horn. You could get away with the 206, but the 208 is better
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Schlepporello » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:48 pm

Mark Finley wrote:I really am a fan of the Humes and berg 208 for that size of horn. You could get away with the 206, but the 208 is better

I really like the looks of that mute, but t's too small for my 187.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:12 am

I'm not sure of the throat on a the 187, is it larger than a 188? I know the 208 is too small for my cerveny 601, but it has a huge throat
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Schlepporello » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:21 am

Mark Finley wrote:I'm not sure of the throat on a the 187, is it larger than a 188? I know the 208 is too small for my cerveny 601, but it has a huge throat

I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's larger than a 186. The mute I tied as used in a St. Pete at my old high school. I went to insert it and it went all the way in without the corks making any contact with the throat. I've asked others here andthere and it seems my only option for a "quality" mute if to get one of those big wooden mutes, like a Balu.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:24 am

This morning I have a lead on a great deal on a Dennis Wick 5518. So just trying to nail this down quickly. Does anybody use this mute in their Miraphone 186/188? And is it the right choice?

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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby scottw » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:28 am

I remember that Lee Stofer had some really neat mutes at the TUSAB conference that had some easy modification for size. I think they were some type of rubber, but I can't remember the name. Try to contact Lee: he will be able to give you a good answer.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Northernlb » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:51 am

Go with the Balu, great sound, great fit, you will not need anything else.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:09 pm

scottw wrote:I remember that Lee Stofer had some really neat mutes at the TUSAB conference that had some easy modification for size. I think they were some type of rubber, but I can't remember the name. Try to contact Lee: he will be able to give you a good answer.


Thank you. Those rubber mutes on Lee Stofer's website are practice mutes. I need a symphonic straight mute.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:11 pm

Northernlb wrote:Go with the Balu, great sound, great fit, you will not need anything else.


I contacted Ion Balu for sizing information. According to him, I need the "XL" for my 186/188. The used one on CL is a "regular" I don't want to just drop a couple hundred $$$ to find out that it swims in my bell.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:17 pm

I greatly prefer the sound of a metal mute. When you are playing in a muted section, it Blends so much better with the rest of the brass section.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:21 pm

Mark Finley wrote:I greatly prefer the sound of a metal mute. When you are playing in a muted section, it Blends so much better with the rest of the brass section.

Ya I get the point. Wood would be nice for a solo recital. But in the orchestra, the trumpets and tbones with aluminum (or even fiber stonelined) might just obliviate my sound through a wood mute.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Northernlb » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:28 pm

The balu works in a different way from a traditional metal mute, I would try one out to see if it produces the sound you want. When I use it with my orchestra I do not get overpowered, that was never even a concern for me. The sound is consistent at all dynamic levels and through all ranges of the tuba. In the end it all depends what sound you have in your head that you want out of your tuba.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:48 pm

Northernlb wrote:The balu works in a different way from a traditional metal mute, I would try one out to see if it produces the sound you want. When I use it with my orchestra I do not get overpowered, that was never even a concern for me. The sound is consistent at all dynamic levels and through all ranges of the tuba. In the end it all depends what sound you have in your head that you want out of your tuba.


The sound I want is full, resonant, and sonorous. I do not want metalic "blat"
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby Northernlb » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:53 pm

That is why I went with the Balu mute.
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Re: Preferred Tuba Mute for Miraphone 186/188

Postby geomiklas » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:18 pm

The Ion Balu tuba mute is the winner!
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