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(probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby bloke » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:50 pm

Name some excerpts (whether it is because they are overlooked, because they are rental, because they are not found in excerpt books, because they are not commonly played, or for whatever reason) that are mostly overlooked at tuba auditions which would *separate the men/women from the boys/girls (and, of course, the other 246 sexes).
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby doublebuzzing » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:26 pm

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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby timayer » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:22 pm

bloke wrote:Image


This one. Played the Grand Canyon Suite a few years ago and spent that entire concert cycle wondering why it wasn't on auditions.
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby cbettler » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:12 pm

Love Grofe, what a fun piece!

Berg, lots of sections from Wozzeck
Hindemith, Mathis der Maler (especially for section playing)
Lutoslawski, Concerto for Orchestra, and Symphony 3
Revueltas, Homenaje a Federico Garcia Lorca

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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby THE TUBA » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:44 pm

I always figured some of those mid-20th century post-tonal works could be easy audition enders.

Muted + atonal + big range + dynamic contrasts + complex rhythms = A real quick way to thin the herd.
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby bloke » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:01 pm

THE TUBA wrote:I always figured some of those mid-20th century post-tonal works could be easy audition enders.

Muted + atonal + big range + dynamic contrasts + complex rhythms = A real quick way to thin the herd.


Truth be told, I believe I could pick a "most highly qualified" (or however those ads word it) tuba player after having heard (as few of them as possible, but whatever) all of them play the Meistersinger Prelude.
It's my belief that purpose of lists (rather than one or two pieces) is to decrease the number of applicants.
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby Ken Herrick » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:34 pm

Further to what Bloke said about hearing everybody play the Meistersinger Prelude, in many cases several would drop out simply by playing notes full value, taking a breath then coming in late on the next note rather than shortening the note before the breath and coming back in on time.

The most beautiful sound in the world is not much use if you don't start each note exactly on time.
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby the elephant » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:11 am

Meistersinger eliminates most players in the first round. They are just too out of touch with what they are doing to know this. It is used just for this purpose. Most tuba players have a weak sense of time when playing alone, and you can tell when they subdivide and don't subdivide simply by hearing them stumble through these two big excerpts. Nothing is more exposed than this excerpt for weeding out people who cannot keep strict time, which is really important.

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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby Ken Herrick » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:22 am

Wade - Yagotit!!!!!!!
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby Ken Herrick » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:30 am

I have a CD of a European orchestra where the tuba has a big, beautiful sound BUT ruins the whole thing by getting out of time.

Jake demanded timing.

CSO brass - renowned for TIMING - Great ENSEMBLE playing. AND - Could you blame a committee for wanting to hear somebody play in a setion before they get "the gig" ?????
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby Three Valves » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:57 am

THE TUBA wrote:I always figured some of those mid-20th century post-tonal works could be easy audition enders.

Muted + atonal + big range + dynamic contrasts + complex rhythms = A real quick way to thin the herd.


It sure thins out an audience!! :tuba:
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby the elephant » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:44 pm

Ken Herrick wrote:Wade - Yagotit!!!!!!!


What's a yago tit? Or, what is a yago? I know the other one well enough...
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby Ken Herrick » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:51 pm

It's like rhythm - either ya got it or ya aint got it.
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby bloke » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:43 pm

Ken Herrick wrote:It's like rhythm - either ya got it or ya aint got it.


It was recommended (by someone who had it) to get it at a certain time in particular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roug4qG7qCY
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby toobagrowl » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:50 am

Besides Grofe's 'Grand Canyon Suite', another good tuba piece not on auditions is 'Babar the Elephant' by Poulenc. If I remember, that piece has the tuba part play in a solid 3-octave range and includes a pretty nice, exposed little tuba solo. There are also a few 'lopsided' rythyms and meter/key changes within the piece.
It's not hard-hard, but it definitely demands more than the typical moderate-easy tuba parts. You can't be a slouch on the piece :!:
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby the elephant » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:54 am

I really liked playing Babar. Yes, the part is hard but a lot of fun.
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby Three Valves » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:49 am

Three Octaves??

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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby bloke » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:33 am

Three Valves wrote:Three Octaves??

YGBSM!!


Who needs three octaves??
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Re: (probably: fun) excerpts discussion

Postby the elephant » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:03 am

The Babar part was what we were playing the night I dumped my first screen name here and logged on as "the elephant" back in 2004. As I passed the MD back stage he quipped "Hey, it's our elephant. Hello, Mr. Elephant."
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