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Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Doc » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:41 pm

At UTA and TMEA, I had the opportunity to play several Wessex tubas. If the Luzern was there, I completely missed it. It sure wouldn't be my first HIA moment. LOL

Does anyone have any experience trying/playing this model? Opinions? Reviews?
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Mark Finley » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:03 pm

They are getting away from the jinbao clones, and with the exception of the 5th valve, it's almost the same horn as the mack brass 210 and a horn at the tempest booth.

Good horn though!
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Doc » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:26 pm

Thanks, Mark!
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Doc » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:31 pm

Mark Finley wrote:They are getting away from the jinbao clones...

It never dawned on me to ask Chuck or Jonathan if there were any large rotary BBb (5/4, 6/4, BART) in their future plans or thought processes. Any ideas?

Maybe they will also chime in...
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Ken Crawford » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:59 pm

Doc wrote:
Mark Finley wrote:They are getting away from the jinbao clones...

It never dawned on me to ask Chuck or Jonathan if there were any large rotary BBb (5/4, 6/4, BART) in their future plans or thought processes. Any ideas?

Maybe they will also chime in...


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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby tubacorbin » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:23 pm

Doc wrote:...large rotary BBb (5/4, 6/4, BART) in their future plans...


Living in the SF Bay Area, a BART tuba is humorous to me.
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby ufonium2 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:55 pm

A student of mine has an early Luzern, bought secondhand. I love the sound of it. However, the linkages are not great HOWEVER, the linkages were somehow modified by a tech for the first owner. I don't understand how (or how much) they were modified, as I wasn't there when it was explained to my student, and I've never seen another one up close to compare, but I've wondered if the modification caused the wonky linkages or if it was an attempt to correct already wonky linkages. Aside from that issue--which may only be relevant to this horn because of the modification--it's a great tuba.
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Ken Crawford » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:42 pm

ufonium2 wrote:A student of mine has an early Luzern, bought secondhand. I love the sound of it. However, the linkages are not great HOWEVER, the linkages were somehow modified by a tech for the first owner. I don't understand how (or how much) they were modified, as I wasn't there when it was explained to my student, and I've never seen another one up close to compare, but I've wondered if the modification caused the wonky linkages or if it was an attempt to correct already wonky linkages. Aside from that issue--which may only be relevant to this horn because of the modification--it's a great tuba.


Linkages on most Wessex rotary valve tubas have been seriously upgraded lately according to management.
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:26 am

At present Wessex has no plans to discontinue the TB575 Luzern, as it is a good playing tuba, very popular (we keep selling out!) and the 5th valve makes it not a clone as such - while the Z valves and upgraded linkage makes it a cut above the competition.

There was not a Luzern at TMEA, as I wanted to show off the new horns, and there was no space on booth, or in van. To show the whole range we would probably need a 30’ X 60’ booth and a Semi to transport all the stock there :)
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby MoCoTubaBone » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:47 pm

How would you say the Luzern and the Viverna compare to each other?
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:19 pm

MoCoTubaBone wrote:How would you say the Luzern and the Viverna compare to each other?

The Viverna is in effect the piston valve version of the Luzern as they share the same bell and outer bows. Which to get depends on if you prefer piston, to rotary valves.
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Ken Crawford » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:14 pm

Wyvern wrote:
MoCoTubaBone wrote:How would you say the Luzern and the Viverna compare to each other?

The Viverna is in effect the piston valve version of the Luzern as they share the same bell and outer bows. Which to get depends on if you prefer piston, to rotary valves.


Isn't the Viverna closer to a BBb Wyvern?

P.S. Will there be a fully up to date Berg at NWRTEC?
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:06 pm

The spec for the Viverna was a BBb version of the Wyvern (Viverna is Italian for Wyvern), but parts wise they only share the valves

There are only new Berg in stock. It is unfortunate if we sell out because people have to wait, but then when we have stock, they are all the latest version
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Doc » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:38 pm

Any more info on the Kaiser BBb?
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:42 pm

Doc wrote:Any more info on the Kaiser BBb?

No not until August
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Casca Grossa » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:45 pm

tubacorbin wrote:
Doc wrote:...large rotary BBb (5/4, 6/4, BART) in their future plans...


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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Doc » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:51 pm

Wyvern wrote:
Doc wrote:Any more info on the Kaiser BBb?

No not until August


Thanks!
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Doc » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:15 pm

Casca Grossa wrote:
tubacorbin wrote:
Doc wrote:...large rotary BBb (5/4, 6/4, BART) in their future plans...


Living in the SF Bay Area, a BART tuba is humorous to me.


Riding tubas to work


I'd say that beats the heck out of riding the bus or the trolley!
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Jim Brewer » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:30 am

This would be a question for Jonathan, if the valve set is from a 5/4 Wyvern and the bell and bows are from a 5/4 Luzern, wouldn’t the Viverna be considered a 5/4?? Just a goofy question since the sound is what counts. I’m seriously considering the Viverna for a Bb horn and it is top of the list with 5 valves and th vented pistons! Seems to be a better value against the 4/4 BMB.
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Re: Wessex Luzern - Anyone try one?

Postby Wyvern » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:36 pm

Jim Brewer wrote:This would be a question for Jonathan, if the valve set is from a 5/4 Wyvern and the bell and bows are from a 5/4 Luzern, wouldn’t the Viverna be considered a 5/4?? Just a goofy question since the sound is what counts. I’m seriously considering the Viverna for a Bb horn and it is top of the list with 5 valves and th vented pistons! Seems to be a better value against the 4/4 BMB.

it is on the border line size wise, so I decided to slot it in 4/4 - but could be either really
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