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"Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Bowerybum » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:13 am

From today's WSJ. Front page below the fold. Go figure......................................

https://www.wsj.com/articles/people-are ... ge=1&pos=1" target="_blank
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Donn » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:30 am

Can you give us non-subscribers a hint as to what it's about?
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby NCSUSousa » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:05 am

Article talks about the frequency of Tuba theft, presents a few cases that are unsolved (Los Angeles, CA theft trend that started then stopped, NC Greensboro Page High School Sousa thefts), and presents a couple of cases of players getting their instruments back - with content from the players.
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Bowerybum » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:16 am

Try this. WSJ Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/wsj/posts/1015 ... &ref=notif" target="_blank
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby windshieldbug » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:32 am

Front Page WSJ.
Now EVERYBODY will want to steal one just to be "cool"... :shock:
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Donn » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:35 am

That reminds me - is Generalissimo Francisco Franco still dead?
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby the elephant » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:35 am

We had a long-time member who participated on a regular basis and who was pretty well liked. He always had a couple of things up for sale. Then we got a post from a detective asking about this guy. This was in the early days of the WWW (1999 or 2000) and a protocol for such interactions on web forums did not yet exist for most police departments.

Anyway, some folks thought this was a troll who was trying to defame our member. Lots of bashing took place and the guy posted his name and where he worked. A few of use looked him up (pre-Yahaoo days - I think I used dogpile.com or mama.com) and we called his boss to see whether there really was a detective there with that name. The dude was completely legit. Our member was a known thief where he lived and he stole a LOT of horns from schools and such. I believe he simply walked into the band hall like he was supposed to be there, picked up horns and walked out. Then he would post them here for sale. We had several members who were burned when the cops captured this guy (or he turned himself in - I forget) and read through his posts here and found sales records in his email or on his computer. They were called, they all sent the horns they bought to the cops, and they all lost their money. Hard thing to do. But this sort of crime needs to be actively watched for at all times. There are a lot of very slick folks out there who know *exactly* what is in that big bag you left on the backseat of your car in the parking lot when you went inside for that latte. Some of these guys who know what we have are other tuba players. To them, it is not just some big, black bag on the backseat: it is thousands of easily convertible dollars...

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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Three Valves » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:08 pm

Is there anything more sad than tuba-on-tuba-player crime?? :(
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Voisi1ev » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:18 pm

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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby PMeuph » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:46 pm

Here is what I have done and would advise.
1. Insure your horns
2. Keep good records of serial numbers, with photos. Maybe even the original purchase receipt.
3. As soon as it is stolen, contact the police. (One of the scams here is to bring a large ticket (like a bicycle) item to the police station, so the police can issue a declaration so it can be pawned without any suspicion. If you don't have the serial numbers, the police won't even open a file around here. (This related more to stolen bikes, but I assum their attitude is the same with all items -I live near a city with over 2000 stolen bikes a year)


While tubists may like Hatchback sedans like the Toyota Matrix (I almost bought one last year). I opted for the Corolla instead as a closed trunk does not raise any suspicion but a covered hatch certainly does, especially when parked in an city. An EEb tuba fits in the trunk no problem.
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby TheGoyWonder » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:03 pm

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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Mark » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:42 pm

If my tuba is in my car, I am in my car.
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby Dan Schultz » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:07 pm

Just a couple of years ago I received a call from a fellow wanting to sell me a St. Pete. I had made arrangements for the guy to come by my shop the next morning. Early the next morning I received a call from the low brass professor that the St Pete I had sold the university two years ago went missing the day before. The thief actually walked out of the university and tried to sell the stolen horn to me.... the person who sold it to the university in the first place. The university security, professor, and the local sheriff were standing in my shop when the thief arrived. Stupid criminal. Went away for many years on the 'three strikes and you're out' rule. End of story.
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby roweenie » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:53 pm

Dan Schultz wrote:Just a couple of years ago I received a call from a fellow wanting to sell me a St. Pete. I had made arrangements for the guy to come by my shop the next morning. Early the next morning I received a call from the low brass professor that the St Pete I had sold the university two years ago went missing the day before. The thief actually walked out of the university and tried to sell the stolen horn to me.... the person who sold it to the university in the first place. The university security, professor, and the local sheriff were standing in my shop when the thief arrived. Stupid criminal. Went away for many years on the 'three strikes and you're out' rule. End of story.


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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby swillafew » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:25 pm

Saw this today on Facebook:

Very sad news - my tubas, one of my students tubas, mouth pieces, and laptop were stolen from my UNM office between 7:20pm after my NMPHIL concert last night on 3/24/18 and today 3/25/18 5:50pm! Adams Custom Series 6/4 (serial number 48386) Adams Custom Solo F ( serial number 48131) Cerveny 5 valve CC!!! Please share and help! I am very sad right now!!! Gig bags are all black with Adams logo and hard case for the Cerveny! Any information email rawhite@unm.edu" target="_blank Thank You

I don't know them but I looked up the person

http://music.unm.edu/faculty/richard-white/" target="_blank
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby MaryAnn » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:46 pm

I agree with:
a) if the tuba is in the car, I am in the car
b) insure your instruments (I use Clarion)
c) if in an emergency you HAVE to leave your instrument in the car, have enough messy stuff in the car that it cannot be obvious that even such a thing as a tuba is in there. If you can fit it in the trunk, make sure you are not followed to where you are going. There were times when I left my violin in the car, but it was always, always on the floor in the back covered with just plain junk. That, however, was decades ago and now is a different time.

Even with the junk idea, a friend of mine whose car always looks like a bomb went off in it, has twice had it broken into and things stolen. Admittedly not in the best of neighborhoods.

I have lost a hell of a lot more money on real estate than I would have if every single instrument I own had been stolen.
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Re: "Tuba Crime Wave Sweeps America"

Postby pjv » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:26 pm

When I used to live in a bad neighbourhood I purchased a very long thick chain and a high quality lock. My rehearsal space used to be a small factory and there was a heavy metal shackle cemented into the wall. I'd put the chain through the top bows of my tubas and lock it to the shackle whenever I was out or asleep. (of coarse I padded the chain to protect my axe and was very careful.)

Many thieves are breaking in for a quick theft and indeed at some point they hit my place, stole some loose change, a lighter, my keys and my H&B tuba mute.

I have no idea what a junky/thief would want a tuba mute for.
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