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Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:46 am
by Sidanas
Hi everybody.
I personally have a very good feeling with Bach mouthpieces, but I find that none of them match well with the compensating Besson I have (Eb). I mean it has a good sound with Bach but no projection at all. So I tried the alliance t3 that comes with the horn. The sound got better so as the intonation. The t3 is a more deep “horn shaped” mouthpieces than Bach, so my question is “do You think that horn shaped” mouthpieces are a better match for compensating instruments?

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:25 am
by Donn
Better for all tubas.

What is probably doing it for you here is really the throat and backbore.

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:07 am
by hup_d_dup
Interesting that the Besson Eb comes with a T3. When I bought my previously owned Besson Bb it came with a T3. It was still in the original wrapping and apparently had never been played. I tried it out and liked it and now it's the only mouthpiece I'm using. I'm also using it on my Besson Eb. I've been told it isn't ideal to use the same mouthpiece on an Eb and Bb, but since Besson apparently supplies the T3 with both instruments I guess they think it's OK.

Hup

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:50 am
by Donn
Copy of the Denis Wick 3L?

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:42 pm
by GC
Who made the T3?

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:21 pm
by hup_d_dup
GC wrote:Who made the T3?
Alliance

https://www.alliancebrassltd.com" target="_blank

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:38 pm
by GC
Thanks. That's what I get for skimming and not reading carefully.

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:31 pm
by Eflatdoubler
I have a gold plated alliance neish I would sell you if interested. I have a Wessex Solo 3+1 compensating and I use a Sellmansberger with an imperial cup and shank and a 32.6mm rim which I love. I was pretty happy with a Denis Wick 3sl before that but the Sellmansberger works better for me.

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:34 pm
by imperialbari
I don’t buy into the idea that compensating tubas take special mouthpieces.

I rather think that a mouthpiece should act as the optimal link between a given player’s physical and musical conformation and a given tuba’s acoustic properties (bore and bore progression ratios).

Klaus, who has compensating tubas in F, Eb, and BBb, plus twice a many non-comping basses in Eb, CC, or BBb

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:42 pm
by Donn
imperialbari wrote:and a given tuba’s acoustic properties (bore and bore progression ratios).
How about unusually long and complex valve circuits?

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:14 pm
by imperialbari
A compensating tuba takes a very efficient mouthpiece to get the best out of it, that is true.

In my experience non-compensating tubas also work best with a mouthpiece with the same efficient qualities.

For me the parameters of efficiency vary more with the individual player than with the various tubas within the same pitch and size range.

Klaus

Re: Mouthpieces for compensating

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:14 pm
by Peach
A large throat tends to work well in my experience - I won't offer a reason as to why...