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4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:49 pm
by besson900
Hello guys!

I'm looking for sousaphone for me And my jazz band but I have no idea what company or model I worth to seeking. I had before fiber 3 valve Jupiter but it wasn't good instrument.

I want to buy full brass instrument, can be used or need repair. Can you write here what company produced or producing good ones? King, Conn or maybe old Holton?

My budget is less than 7000$

All best
Paweł

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 4:10 pm
by lowtones425
Here's a really good one for much less than your proposed budget. I can vouch for the seller, as he is a friend of mine.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=85397" target="_blank" target="_blank

If I had the scratch I'd buy this one myself.

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Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:43 pm
by Donn
I have a 40K. Great instrument - maybe the best, though of course it's a matter of taste too.

I guess if I had it to do over, I would have had my old Reynolds fixed up instead. A 4 valve BBb sousaphone is ridiculous. What most people want in a sousaphone is 1) light, and 2) punchy.

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:43 pm
by UDELBR
Here's my Dynasty 4 valve for $1800. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=78826"%20%20target="_blank

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:17 pm
by TUbajohn20J
I love my 40K!

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Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:58 pm
by Kirley
Where are you located?

I have a Conn 40K available for sale but I'm guessing you're not on the West Coast of the US.

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:18 pm
by besson900
Hello again guys!

Thank You for all your advices and posts! :tuba: :tuba: :tuba:
I'm living in Poland(Europe) so i will have to buy instrument with shipping :(

I will thunk about your horns for sale an let You all know what i decide :)
I want to have horn with bigger bell(dont remember inch's), also i have an old Amati helicon but it's not what i want. I wrote that i want 4 valve cause its impossible to play lower than Fb on Bb tuba without 4th valve. I know that bigger=heavy but im one of those "big guy" with 194cm tall so it's not a problem that it will weight few kg more.

I have one more question out of this topic - What sousaphone are playing Nat Mcintosh with this HUGHE brass band on YouTube and Brooklyn as solo piece, and the same question about man from Lucky Chops and his satin silver instrument :)

Thank's for all you answers

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:16 pm
by Sousaswag
I believe Nat plays an Olds. 3 valves.

The Lucky Chops horn looks to me like a Conn 20k

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:01 pm
by toobagrowl
besson900 wrote: I wrote that i want 4 valve cause its impossible to play lower than Fb on Bb tuba without 4th valve.
Most BBb sousas have excellent false/ghost tones below low EE; so you don't really need a 4th valve on a BBb sousa. You actually have to be more concerned about the 123 combo low B-natural and EE-natural as those notes will be quite sharp if no slides are pulled or put in 'compromise' positions.
But if you must have a 4-valve BBb sousa; Uncle Beer's Dynasty sousa is about the best deal your gonna get for a decent 4-valver :!:

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 12:49 am
by David Richoux
Old Conn and Buescher 4 valve sousaphones are very desirable - I have been playing a somewhat beat up 1929 Conn for decades. I am not doing symphonic stuff - just Dixie and NOLA Hot Brass, so (except for the added weight) it is a great horn. Faster fingering and lower tones are the advantages.

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 11:19 am
by MrBasseyPants
lowtones425 wrote:Here's a really good one for much less than your proposed budget. I can vouch for the seller, as he is a friend of mine.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=85397" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

If I had the scratch I'd buy this one myself.

:tuba: :tuba: :tuba: :tuba:
I owner this horn and sold it to Him....it is a great horn and comes with a nice SKB case....it has a small bell....but it definitely looks the part for a jazz group. This IS the horn you want. Everything else is a compromise....unless you want the even bigger King or Conn 4 valves (you don’t).

You could take the money saved and have Anderson replace the valves for about $600 or so....and the horn would mechanically be good as new....but the horn probably doesn’t even need that.

I really liked this horn and it’s low registe, but I sold it when I got my King Giant 3-valves because I like the King sound better....but the 40K was easily just as good.

jc

Re: 4 valve sousaphone?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 11:21 am
by MrBasseyPants
Even with great shipping to Poland....you should be well under your budget.

jc