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Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby TubAnthony » Wed May 23, 2018 3:47 pm

I will be getting a BMB J-845SP around early June, which I am stoked about (it is currently getting its rotating leadpipe sautered on to be fixed before it is shipped); however, I also have two back-to-back summer camps I will be attending (IET Festival in Georgia and FSU's Chamber Winds Camp) not far after the tuba will arrive. My question is: should I dive head-on into these camps with the new tuba, with only around a week or two to try to learn the fingerings, or should I play it safe and continue playing my school's BBb?
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby Mark Finley » Wed May 23, 2018 3:50 pm

I think you should work on reading CC tuba fingerings every second between now and then, and then see how you feel at the time.

Just play your BBb as if it's a CC
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby bort » Wed May 23, 2018 4:31 pm

Take the new one and it'll be your CC tuba boot camp.

Also, a lot of times, summer music camps focus a LOT on fundamentals, breathing, etc... so it really wouldn't make a difference at all.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby Ken Crawford » Wed May 23, 2018 6:00 pm

Take the BBb. If you go while you are still figuring out the fingerings you could have a very discouraging experience. You won't lose anything by taking the BBb. But you could lose your mind if you take the CC.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby Three Valves » Thu May 24, 2018 7:49 am

What everyone REALLY wants to know is; how did you convince your parents to buy it for you and will it fit in the car they got you for your 16th birthday??

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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby bloke » Thu May 24, 2018 8:41 am

lacquer or silver...??
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby TubAnthony » Thu May 24, 2018 10:46 am

Three Valves wrote:What everyone REALLY wants to know is; how did you convince your parents to buy it for you and will it fit in the car they got you for your 16th birthday??

:tuba:

My parents saw it as a worthy investment seeing as I am majoring in tuba performance in college... and I will be paying them back once I acquire a job, lol
Edit: I also got a showroom demo which lowered the price further
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby TubAnthony » Thu May 24, 2018 10:47 am

bloke wrote:lacquer or silver...??

It is silver :)
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby bloke » Thu May 24, 2018 12:08 pm

TubAnthony wrote:
bloke wrote:lacquer or silver...??

It is silver :)


Take it. You are excited about it, you would like everyone to see it, and you are eager to maximize your experiences with it.
silver... Will impress your friends even more, which is yet another reason to take it.

:arrow: STUDY YOUR MUSIC AHEAD OF TIME WITH IT, SO THAT YOU ARE READY TO USE IT WHEN YOU GET THERE ! ...and no excuses like, "I can't get the music ahead of time", because there is a 99% chance that statement is false.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby TubaDrummer » Thu May 24, 2018 6:49 pm

Take the new CC. The fingerings come faster than you think. I got my CC 2 weeks before my high school senior final concert and i played it. I had my parts down with the fingerings but i did struggle a bit with pitch admittedly.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby ken k » Thu May 24, 2018 7:17 pm

use the summer to learn the CC tuba.... you wont forget the BBb tuba....
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby bloke » Thu May 24, 2018 8:03 pm

analogy:

I just got a brand new flashy car with a manual transmission, and I'm going on a road trip.
Sometimes, I conk the car out with the clutch pedal...
...so should I just use the old automatic transmission car (that I've been driving for the past several years) to drive on the trip?
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby Toobist » Thu May 24, 2018 8:17 pm

I had a wonderful (and tough!) tuba teacher back when I went to band camp. He had me switch to CC two weeks prior to camp! He even lent me his Conn 2J for it. It forced me to get those fingerings down darn quick, especially since I had to prep audition material for placement on that first day.

Bring the CC. You'll be glad you did.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby barry grrr-ero » Fri May 25, 2018 5:01 am

I disagree. Take them both, or just take the BBb. It's not just the fingerings - intonation differences could be quite daunting if you care about matching others around you. It takes time to learn the tuning quirks of any horn - a learning curve that could be even steeper when switching from BBb to CC.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby Lee Stofer » Fri May 25, 2018 9:20 am

Take on the challenge - you can do it!
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby bloke » Fri May 25, 2018 9:31 am

If Anthony has a $10-or-better tuner, it will reveal to them all of his new instrument's intonation tendencies prior to the camp. As long as they don't over-correct, they'll be fine, and (I'd wager) more conscientious than with the school instrument.

BTW...

I posted a pretty darn good way (two years ago...?? more...??) to set up a tuba, intonation-wise. Others of the TNFJ seemed to be approving of it.
I don't know how to dig up old posts here (others are good at it).
Could someone link it for Anthony ?

I ~do~ understand the "conservative" approach, but music - in general - isn't particularly "conservative". It involves risk-taking and stretching the limits, so that (as is quickly revealed in the study of the history of music) new limits are reached and mastered.
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby Sousaswag » Fri May 25, 2018 10:43 am

Take the CC-- it will really help you learn the fingerings, and you'll be motivated to keep learning them as you'll have a reason to! Good luck, you can do it!
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby bort » Fri May 25, 2018 10:55 am

Sousaswag wrote:Take the CC-- it will really help you learn the fingerings, and you'll be motivated to keep learning them as you'll have a reason to! Good luck, you can do it!


It'll be better than showing up at college on day one, and being handed a CC tuba "here, play this." (Which is what I did... and was actually not that difficult.)

BTW, learning a new key of tuba should not be hard, it's just a mind game. The nice thing is, you KNOW what it's supposed to sound like!
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby MaryAnn » Fri May 25, 2018 12:49 pm

This is for your own good, rather than just being a snarky comment. Learn to spell "solder."
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Re: Should I bring my new CC tuba to summer camp?

Postby barry grrr-ero » Fri May 25, 2018 1:32 pm

I still disagree with this advice. It's not a question of 'can you do it', it's rather, 'should you do it'. CC tubas can so easily sound brighter and stick out in comparison to our BBb brethren. I frankly think that if you're going to be playing with BBb tubas (I'm making an assumption), you should look for a mouthpiece that will help you blend better, and not just be the 'hot shot' who sticks out. That's just one person's opinion, based upon my own experiences.

Also, you can stare at a meter all you want. That's not good intonation. You need to make your tone and tuning fit in with those playing around you, whether you think you're better than them or not. The conductor will be happier if you're not sticking out, or if there isn't an obvious discrepancy within the section. It's called making music. If you believe you can do all this on the fly, give it a shot. Personally, I'd wait.
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