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Postby lost » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:38 pm

Anyone have any tips or alternative fingerings for the triplet lick. My tuba section mate and I just kinda look at each other in that spot...

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Re: Commando March

Postby Mark » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:01 pm

lost wrote:Anyone have any tips or alternative fingerings for the triplet lick. My tuba section mate and I just kinda look at each other in that spot...


Are you talking about the six-note run from Cb up to Gb? What tempo is the conducting taking this? It shouldn't be too fast.
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Re: Commando March

Postby bloke » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:06 pm

lost wrote:Anyone have any tips or alternative fingerings for the triplet lick. My tuba section mate and I just kinda look at each other in that spot...

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phone pic of the particular passage...??
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Re: Commando March

Postby Mark » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:14 pm

I assume he means this:

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Re: Commando March

Postby lost » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:15 pm

Mark wrote:
lost wrote:Anyone have any tips or alternative fingerings for the triplet lick. My tuba section mate and I just kinda look at each other in that spot...


Are you talking about the six-note run from Cb up to Gb? What tempo is the conducting taking this? It shouldn't be too fast.


Yes! That spot. He's going fast and won't yield the tempo. I can kinda fake it at his tempo but its tough.
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Re: Commando March

Postby THE TUBA » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:12 pm

BBb or CC?
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Re: Commando March

Postby bloke » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:30 pm

I would suspect that it's more of a lack of familiarity than a matter of difficulty.
When playing that using a B-flat tuba,
the fingerings sort of allow your hand to rock from front to back twice…
You will grow accustomed to it,
and discover that is easier than you think.
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Re: Commando March

Postby pauvog1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:48 pm

There aren't many options for alternate fingerings here. The key is slow practice with gradual increase in tempo.
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Re: Commando March

Postby Ltrain » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:20 pm

I played that piece last season with the Brooklyn Wind Symphony. It's the one time in band rep that I thought to myself "wow, this is way easier on CC tuba". (Says the guy who's thinking about switching back to BBb).

On BBb I would just play that 24, 1, 23 (same for both octaves) and call it a day. It's just a major triad. If your brain and your ears know that... your lips will take care of the intervals.
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Re: Commando March

Postby the elephant » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:19 pm

It's just a simple B arpeggio. Work on your B scale, which needs to be just a fluid for you as the others. Why? Because you are looking at "why" on your stand. The key of B is not difficult at all. It is simply unfamiliar. That is it. Unfamiliar. Now, say it with me... :)

Note that much of the broadway show "Annie" is in the key of B or F#/Gb, as in almost half of it, including several big low brass things.
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Re: Commando March

Postby iiipopes » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:32 pm

On a BBb tuba, try playing the low Cb note with 123 instead of 24. It goes by so quick that intonation should not be an issue. That makes it easy to go 123 - 1 - 23 - 12 - 1 - 23 so the hand is simply rocking between positions, and it leaves the weaker 4th finger out of the way. (Remember - I started low brass on a sousaphone, so 3-valve fingerings come naturally to me.)
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Re: Commando March

Postby THE TUBA » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:24 pm

the elephant wrote:It's just a simple B arpeggio.


Looks like a C-flat arpeggio to me.
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Re: Commando March

Postby bloke » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:20 am

THE TUBA wrote:
the elephant wrote:It's just a simple B arpeggio.


Looks like a C-flat arpeggio to me.


Orchestra musicians cannot read 7 flats...only 5 or 6 sharps...
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Re: Commando March

Postby lost » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:35 pm

Didn't mean to start a music theory war. Enharmonic equivalents. Thinking in B is much easier and more tangential. Because the lick is so quick at like 150 i was just wondering if there were substitute fingerings on a BBb horn.
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Re: Commando March

Postby BoilerGoalie » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:06 pm

We just played this on our last concert.

Audio for this segment here!

+10 to iiipopes on starting this with a 123 first note on a BBb tuba. I was going back and forth with this for quite some time and the 123 combo helps get off the first note faster (for me).
Playing these all short short short will help with the feel of the line too.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Commando March

Postby bloke » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:39 pm

You could have switched to an old high-pitch instrument, and played the entire lick "no valves down"... :wink:

(I'm sure you did really great...I can't hear the audio file, because it requires some sort of google-this or google-that,
and - as it stands now - I've managed to make google think I'm someone
other than who I actually am...which I consider to be somewhat of an achievement.
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Re: Commando March

Postby BoilerGoalie » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:28 pm

Just for you bloke . See if the different sharing setting for the link works now.
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