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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby royjohn » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:06 pm

If the upright bell is $1200 (plus shipping?) then I'd have over $2K in the horn and I would wonder whether it might be better to just find a BAT with an upright bell...it might depend on whether I will be able to get rid of my flat F when the valves are aligned... :D
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby bloke » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:35 pm

royjohn wrote:If the upright bell is $1200 (plus shipping?) then I'd have over $2K in the horn and I would wonder whether it might be better to just find a BAT with an upright bell...it might depend on whether I will be able to get rid of my flat F when the valves are aligned... :D


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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby Donn » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:46 pm

It seems to me though that there are persons of creditable reputation, who have seen 20J series tubas that do not have the flat F.
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby royjohn » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:13 pm

Double N Donn wrote:
It seems to me though that there are persons of creditable reputation, who have seen 20J series tubas that do not have the flat F.


Oh, c'mon, Donn, bloke is just being his cheery self...although it is true that some well regarded repair folks have claimed that a properly de-dented, non-leaky, valve-aligned Conn 2XJ does not have the flat F. My leadpipe has been de-dented by a local tech and I did tape most of the big joints to see if that might help (a 20J is pretty with all that blue painter's tape decorating it), but so far the F is still equally flat whether played open or 1-3. It seems odd to me that 1-3 doesn't seem to help at all...I'm going to get one of those little USB cable cameras and see if the valves are out of line...they do have new felts, but that doesn' mean they are aligned...I'm not sure if there's anything else I might do...I'll bet using a blokepiece would fix it right up...
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby bloke » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:34 pm

I wonder how much BMB would charge you for one of those Holton-style bells - that you could cut to fit the tenon?
I don't believe you could use the entire bell...i'm pretty sure that the small end of the Conn bell is smaller than most all other 6/4 size tubas' small ends of bells.
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby royjohn » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:06 pm

Wow, great minds think alike, I was just wondering if there was an alternative bell I could use...
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby Art Hovey » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:06 pm

I asked Dick Barth about purchasing one of his bells, and he said no.
Same answer for a valve section.
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby The Big Ben » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:20 am

Art Hovey wrote:I asked Dick Barth about purchasing one of his bells, and he said no.
Same answer for a valve section.


I'm sure he would rather sell the complete instrument.
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Re: Building a fiberglass upright bell for a 20J

Postby bloke » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:53 am

Has anyone played the BMB re-routed 6/4 C tuba?
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