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Anybody played these yet,other than Lee Hipp? Was browsing through brasswind and was a bit shocked by the prices.The Dalyan f is more than a 6valve goldbrass mira 181 b stock at the moment.The piggy copy is about the same as a real Cerveny piggy. Wonder if Roger is selling any...Roger?

I remember Mr. Krause talking about playing these horns. You should drop him a line...

Ralph

Maybe the high prices are due to low yeild--you know, "we get 100 tubas in and have to send 99 of them back"...

I played that exact same Piggy last week and thought it was pretty good. Big sound for such a configuration.

i guess one angle of my original question was,even if they play ok, are they cost effective,since they seem to cost as much as the horns they are copies of , and they're chinese...

MikeMason wrote:i guess one angle of my original question was,even if they play ok, are they cost effective,since they seem to cost as much as the horns they are copies of , and they're chinese...

My quick answer would be that some models are and some aren't. At least, that's my opinion.

TubaRay wrote:

MikeMason wrote:i guess one angle of my original question was,even if they play ok, are they cost effective,since they seem to cost as much as the horns they are copies of , and they're chinese...

My quick answer would be that some models are and some aren't. At least, that's my opinion.

Mike -

I think they're all Chinese. See:

http://www.dalyan.de/

particularly under "Historie".

Hi Mike,

Since I don't determine the pricing I can't really answer your question regarding that subject. My general observation is that the main focus with the Dalyan tubas will be in the school BBb market and the factory will be spending pretty much all their time producing those horns that are being purchased in large quantities.

There are already school districts in Texas that have begun ordering 6-8 horns at a time and there is a large stock sitting in the warehouse in SA waiting for shipment. This may or may not have some effect on pricing due to availability of some of the more specialized horns (F, C, Prague, etc.)...

I do have the Prague with me for the summer at the Eastern Music Festival and plan on using it for a couple of pieces we will be performing. As others mentioned already it is a "sweet" little horn that has a surprisingly beefy low register. We always do a band concert with the wind students the first week of the festival and I will use it on that as well as a chamber music concert where we will do Weill's "Threepenny Opera" with the incomparable Mark Niehaus (Princ. Trumpet, Milwaukee) conducting.

Hope the info helps.

MikeMason wrote:i guess one angle of my original question was,even if they play ok, are they cost effective,since they seem to cost as much as the horns they are copies of , and they're chinese...

I would think that if they cost as much as equivalent horns from more established manufacturers, I would buy from the more established company. They may be great players, but their long term reliability/durability is still unknown, and one should expect to pay a bit less as a result of this. I would say the same thing about any product from a company without a long term track record.