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a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tuba

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:20 am

captured from a video...
rare tuba...

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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:53 am

The big spacing between the two lower bows reminds me very much of the "Rusk-cut" look...
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Postby roweenie » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 am

Must be Dr. Newberger...?
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby YORK-aholic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:11 am

bloke wrote:rare tuba...


...says Bloke, who probably has 3 in the attic! :D
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:11 am

Not many others own these.
I believe Dan Oberloh picked up a rough-condition Bb a few years ago.
Seeing what looks to be a "factory cut", I'm wondering if the Bb version is the "real" version (though both are "factory") and perhaps - then - the better of the two (??).

My in-the-wings Buescher tubas (which will be C, but no bow-cutting will be required) are very similarly-sized instruments. I hope to finish one-or-both of those projects within the next 1 to 2 years.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:11 am

I found Dan's pictures.
The condition is far better than I remembered..."somewhat excellent"...??
The valveset wrap is unique...identifiable with only a quick glimpse.

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The purpose of the curly-cue tube between the 4th valve and the main slide (obviously) is to clear the two smaller lower bows, and thus to better nestle the valveset.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby roweenie » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:20 am

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Very unique, indeed, for then (or now, as well.....)
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:12 pm

I suspect that part of the PT-6P upper slide wrap design was borrowed from this model.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby Heliconer » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:43 pm

I had one for a short while that went to another board member who could better care for it! The valves are currently in Dan's shop and I believe Shane Petit is going to be doing the rest of the work.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby humBell » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:21 pm

Heliconer wrote:I had one for a short while that went to another board member who could better care for it! The valves are currently in Dan's shop and I believe Shane Petit is going to be doing the rest of the work.


Can confirm the above, with an addendum that i believe the valve work is complete and the valves are once more in the mail, and the board member is still severely slacking at finding time for a cross country road trip to pick up the body from the old college friend who is holding it for him to ensure an eventual visit. Distractions/excuses include but are not limited to, concerts, rehearsals, parades, jury duty, hiking trips, car issues of various sorts, and softball.

Further, the board member sincerely apologizes to the world at large for not having anything worth sharing at this point, and in particular, Heliconer, who is still waiting on something dependant on that cross country road trip.

It will happen eventually! And news will get posted here, or in another Del Negro thread as seems fitting.

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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:33 pm

just fwiw...

Those two pictures I posted above (side-by-side) are NOT (as with recent Bb tuba models released by a German manufacturer) the "4/4" version and the "6/4" version.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby humBell » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:23 pm

Body fits in the vehicle.

End of September it should be in proximity of the valves again.

There is likely a long list (or set, not to imply there is an order) of more important things ahead of reuniting them.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby roweenie » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:03 pm

Out of curiosity,

1) did Holton use this same bugle on other models, or was it unique to the Del Negro model?

2) what is the piston bore of the Del Negro model?

It (the bugle, shape-wise) looks very similar to the York "tall bell" 712 model....
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:39 pm

I've never seen another Holton with that plumbing, and I'm pretty sure it's three-quarter inch.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby EdFirth » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:23 am

I'm pretty sure that that was Walter Sear's personal horn and he willed it to Eli. I played it at Walter's store in the early 70's, it wasn't in the best of repair, and then a couple years ago at Tom Treece's house. Tom oversaw the rebuild. Cool horn.
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Re: a couple of fairly good shots of a Holton Del Negro C tu

Postby bloke » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:11 am

All of these are rare, but the even more rare factory C versions - to me - always look like those "Milwaukee" cut-downs, with a big space between the two lower bows.
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