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Outdoor Overture

Postby Steve Marcus » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:14 am

“Why aren’t you playing?” the conductor asked.

“There’s no tuba part for An Outdoor Overture,” I answered.

“Yes, there is. I had it on my kitchen table.”

“Well, I’d be happy to play it if the part is here,” I responded.

“I’ll bring it to the next rehearsal,” the conductor said.

At the next rehearsal, the conductor approached me at the break. “I’m sorry. I looked through both sets that I have. They both say that there is an optional tuba part, but I couldn’t find it in either set.”

So, if there is a tuba part, optional or otherwise, for the original orchestration of Copland’s An Outdoor Overture, could someone please email is to me?

For that matter, if it’s from a “bandstration,” it might be possible to extract something to play. Thanks in advance if that’s what you have to email.
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Re: Outdoor Overture

Postby the elephant » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:36 am

There is no tuba part for this, and there is no "optional" part actually penned by Copland. If there is a part in your conductor's set it is not the original but someone else's arrangement of the work.

The band arrangement has a big-ish tuba part. I am not sure it would work in the original as I *think* the band arrangement is in a different key. Not sure on that. I have played it, but it was years ago. I remember it being one of my least favorite pieces by Copland.
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Re: Outdoor Overture

Postby gary » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:45 pm

I thought it was originally written for band and the orchestra version is the transcription.
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Re: Outdoor Overture

Postby the elephant » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:36 pm

gary wrote:I thought it was originally written for band and the orchestra version is the transcription.


Could be. With Copland I am assuming he wrote for orchestra and some publisher did an in-house arrangement, like Boosey's Planets movements.

EDIT: Nope. It was written for high school orchestra. Here are some interesting program notes.

https://www.etso.org/ProgramNotesbyJimYancy.htm
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Re: Outdoor Overture

Postby bloke » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:39 pm

The mind plays funny tricks (in particular, my stupid mind).

There have been piece that I could have sworn had tuba parts...but, nope.
I probably just remembered sitting next to the bass-bonist and reading a book whilst those pieces were being rehearsed.
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Re: Outdoor Overture

Postby Schlepporello » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:06 pm

the elephant wrote:The band arrangement has a big-ish tuba part. I am not sure it would work in the original as I *think* the band arrangement is in a different key. Not sure on that. I have played it, but it was years ago. I remember it being one of my least favorite pieces by Copland.

I was gonna say that the concert band arrangement of Outhouse Overture had a tuba part, I've played it. However, I haven't played any orchestral arrangements of this song, so what do I know. :?
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Re: Outdoor Overture

Postby swillafew » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:11 pm

When I was a tadpole I had a few conductors that would invite me to play anything I could cover when there was no part. You can imagine my surprise when I got a little older and saw the rest of the world.
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