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Getting the water out

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Newby question. I’m a long time trombone player learning to play a tuba. I found a Conn 10J in typical abused condition - it’s good enough to learn on. I’m having trouble getting the (I’m told not to say spit) water out of it. I pull all the valve slides and main slide, spin the horn around like I see French horn players do both with the valves depressed and not, and the horn still rattles. Is there a trick? Do I need an air compressor?
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The spit makes it rattle??
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Yes, it's very frustrating. My old Conn (...whatever it is...) does the same thing, and it bit me hard during the most recent concert with it. Mine is a bit of a BAT and I'm sure the audience was trying to figure out why I was tossing it about during the performance.

Anyway, you have to keep spinning it around vertically until... uh... well, you know. Just make sure you spin it in the right direction so the moisture doesn't come out the bell.
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Three Valves wrote:The spit makes it rattle??
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Learning to get the water out of a particular tuba can be something of an art at times.
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Thanks. It makes me appreciate the simplicity off my trombones.
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The Big Ben wrote:Learning to get the water out of a particular tuba can be something of an art at times.
That is why I had a Saturn Water Key added to the 4th valve tubing on my Miraphone. I got tired of doing tuba acrobatics in the close quarters of various pits during musicals.
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Without watching how you turn the horn, I'll still guess that you spin it too quickly. The water needs to "roll" out, like you're rolling a marble through the tubing. Slow down, and take time at home to study the pipes and figure them out.

And please don't whirl the horn around while the rest of the group is playing.
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On those Conn 10J the water likes to hang out in second valve slide or the bottom of the second valve. If you do not have access to the slide to get it out, the slow roll is the way you will have go to get it out of the instrument. If done right one turn should get it to a water key.
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