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Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:40 pm
by windshieldbug
Do you play your car? :P

(seriously, I've never heard of a car horn with metal fatigue, so perhaps those are very different kinds of vibrations... )

Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:03 pm
by Mike C855B
Highly unlikely to impossible. It's a matter of the energy behind the vibrations. I suspect the most accomplished among us isn't developing the equivalent of the hundreds or thousands of horsepower needed to induce the type of mechanical fatigue you're talking about.

At least I hope not. :shock:

Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:32 pm
by Three Valves
Fatigue, hell.

I’m ten times the player you are, and my world class sound is so hot, I worry about spontaneous combustion!!

:tuba:

Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:43 am
by hup_d_dup
Playing can definitely cause mental fatigue. Happens all the time.

Hup

Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:12 am
by timothy42b
Brass doesn't precipitation harden like steel, but it does work harden.

I think that given adequate protection from corrosion it would probably soften eventually. A work hardened state is at a higher energy level and thermodynamics will eventually see it return. That time frame is probably in the neighborhood of 10,000 years (based on memories of a metallurgy class back in engineering school.)

I don't see any way vibration could speed the process.

Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:04 pm
by Donn
If I may refer to an old thread from 2004, there's some interesting depth here: Hardening Of The Tuba Arteries?.

That discussion is rather focused on hardening, which likely does not happen with age, but I'm pretty sure very old brass instruments get brittle, which is a different thing. Playing is still probably the least of our worries, in the scheme of things that cause stress to the brass, but play enough on a brittle enough instrument and who knows?

Re: Playing and Metal Fatigue?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:00 pm
by Art Hovey
yes, it does.