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Re: learning from my betters

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:32 pm
by Art Hovey
And don't forget the sopranos and piccolo players.

Re: learning from my betters

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:15 pm
by toobagrowl
Yeah, this is something I have noticed, too. I think it is partly because of the nature of the tuba -- the lower you go, the more "grumbly" the sound gets. And the lower and louder you get, the more "flatulent" the sound gets :? :lol: I think it is something tuba players (even the pros) should keep in mind when playing solos, recitals and demonstrating etudes :idea:

Re: learning from my betters

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:25 am
by Alex C
Good topic.

One of my close friends is a fine tubist with an extensive teaching career. When he hears one of students play THWHACK!, he says something like this, "I have had a long career, playing almost every conceivable type of music and I have never had a conductor or a fellow musician ask me to make that sound."

It doesn't seem to have much affect. The marching band environment seems to encourage that sound out of tuba players. "Guys" in particular seem to like it and ask tuba players to "do it again." Oh, well.

Re: learning from my betters

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:56 am
by bigboymusic
Now, flirting with blasphemy, I will say this. In my younger years, I paid a lot of $$ to take lessons with prominent tubists of the time. Men who spent a lot of time helping me 'visualize' my sound, and refine it. I owe them everything tuba wise... But... I have also heard both of them give master classes with an emphasis on beauty over blasting, and then I get to hear them in the hall with some of the bigger excerpts. And let me tell you.... Some of our heroes can really find their inner sousaphones on given occasions. I personally use it to remind myself that they are humans as well....

Re: learning from my betters

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:27 am
by williamp
This is just a personal observation and may or may not add value to this conversation. When I was studying with a highly regarded orchestral player (since deceased), he would advise me to pivot my embouchure when going into the lower register. I found that this often resulted in the lower notes that were out of context with the others being played. A long time ago, Jay Bertolet posted a comment on this board about trying to keep a very consistent embouchure throughout the lower register, and I have also found this to work much better. In my daily practice and performing throughout the lower register, I try to shift as little as needed and I think it helps with consistency of sound. Thanks for the reminder, Bloke.