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Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:38 pm
by bort
MartyNeilan wrote:I may be looking for something a little larger (not necessarily too much louder, but fatter/thicker) than a 186 but nothing huge. Rotors preferred. Low register must “pop” like a 186 or a Thor. BBb or CC doesn’t matter.
Open to any suggestions, but price is a major consideration.


Marty -- how about this one?

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Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:57 pm
by bloke
bort wrote:
MartyNeilan wrote:I may be looking for something a little larger (not necessarily too much louder, but fatter/thicker) than a 186 but nothing huge. Rotors preferred. Low register must “pop” like a 186 or a Thor. BBb or CC doesn’t matter.
Open to any suggestions, but price is a major consideration.


Marty -- how about this one?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=89986" target="_blank


I believe I would probably (??) pick a fine example of one of those over (very specifically) a 186-BB.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:57 pm
by swillafew
I have one on the market now, a B&S GR51 in very good condition with hard and soft cases. I am selling because I do my playing in small groups (F tubas there) , and have picked up trombone as a rival to the tuba for the main axe.

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Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:18 am
by Frank Ortega
Go for that Sander CC that's on the market.

I'm dying to play the Rotary Conn Orch Grand at Baltimore Brass, too!

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:08 pm
by MartyNeilan
Frank Ortega wrote:Go for that Sander CC that's on the market.

Frank!
Good to hear from you, buddy. I have been ogling it, but my concern would be how well it would hold up to daily use considering the age. The massive BART project horn is definitely fragile and I would need something durable.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 pm
by toobagrowl
bloke wrote:
bort wrote:
Marty -- how about this one?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=89986" target="_blank" target="_blank


I believe I would probably (??) pick a fine example of one of those over (very specifically) a 186-BB.


I'd also pick the B&S 101/'Sonora' over the Mira 186 :!: I'm not sure it is much 'fatter' in tone than the Mira 186, but the B&S (and clone) is definitely deeper/darker in tone. And it has similarly good response, pitch and build :tuba: Oddly overlooked on here for other models, but there are a few players here who own/enjoy it. I'd seriously buy one if I had the extra money.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:17 pm
by Doc
toobagrowl wrote:
bloke wrote:
bort wrote:
Marty -- how about this one?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=89986" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank


I believe I would probably (??) pick a fine example of one of those over (very specifically) a 186-BB.


I'd also pick the B&S 101/'Sonora' over the Mira 186 :!: I'm not sure it is much 'fatter' in tone than the Mira 186, but the B&S (and clone) is definitely deeper/darker in tone. And it has similarly good response, pitch and build :tuba: Oddly overlooked on here for other models, but there are a few players here who own/enjoy it. I'd seriously buy one if I had the extra money.


These are solid instruments, IMHO. I’d love to have one. The price is right, and we all know the seller.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:47 pm
by russiantuba
Marty,

What are your thoughts on a Cerveny Piggy?

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:14 pm
by bort
^ There's one for $1800 at BBC right now.

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Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:03 pm
by Levaix
I considered mentioning the B&S stencil, but as much as I'm enjoying mine post-play conditioning it's definitely not bigger than a 186. (Disclaimer: going from memory when I sat next to a 186 player for a semester)

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:19 pm
by MartyNeilan
I think I have narrowed it down to a 5 valve CC, if that helps. Max price point around 2,000.
To recap - wanted - all the good of a 186, but with a higher threshold for "breaking" and a potentially darker sound.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:19 am
by toobagrowl
MartyNeilan wrote:I think I have narrowed it down to a 5 valve CC, if that helps. Max price point around 2,000.
:shock: Pretty ambitious demand for that price....
That said, you may be able to get a used full-sized Chinese-made M&M or Schiller 5v CC tuba for about that price.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:37 am
by MaryAnn
pjv said: "The valves are always "on time" so they don't get in the way of where my lips want to vibrate (does this make sense?)."

Yes. I noticed it particularly in changing to different (French) horns....the lever throws are different and I had to adjust to the different timing of when the valve was fully open so that I didn't clam. It was interesting. It's just one of those things that you adjust to.

Re: Looking for instrument ideas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:22 am
by Alecgrinage
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