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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:23 pm

Joe, have you even had a chance to do a serious A/B between the 277 Eb and the 377? I ask because as you know, I prefer the 274 series euphonium over the 374, and not just because of price
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby bloke » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:38 pm

Mark Finley wrote:Joe, have you even had a chance to do a serious A/B between the 277 Eb and the 377? I ask because as you know, I prefer the 274 series euphonium over the 374, and not just because of price


I have bought-and-resold two used 277 Eb tubas.
They are certainly better-built than _________, and I certainly prefer their playing characteristics to the other (importer cost) economy-priced Chinese...but (unlike the 377) they aren't equal-to-or-better-than all the other (incl. Japan/Europe) compensating Eb tubas that I've played...and the 377 is at that level (in my opinion).

I realize that i'm probably losing sales by not pushing the less-expensive 277, but (though it is "very good") the 377 is "the s _ _t"...

...and (though very much a side issue) the 377 Brazil-style hard case absolutely rocks.

slightly off topic: Unlike another lines, JP hasn't been tossing new this/that/the-other into their line at mind-boggling speed, but I would just like to say that a couple of things are in the pipeline that should really please many dozens (hundreds?) of players. There shall be no further comment at this time, as - when released - those products will speak for themselves.

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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby JasonEuphonium » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:03 am

It'll be my first time going. Very excited to hear all the great players and try out some horns.
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby ASTuba » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:44 am

I will be there too. Been a year or two since I’ve been able to make it. Look forward to seeing many of you there!
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby scottw » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:11 pm

Has anyone been able to find out if the government "shutdown" will cause a problem? Sean? :?:
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby bloke » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:14 pm

scottw wrote:Has anyone been able to find out if the government "shutdown" will cause a problem? Sean? :?:


Move it to blokePlace ! :shock:
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby scottw » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:16 pm

bloke wrote:
scottw wrote:Has anyone been able to find out if the government "shutdown" will cause a problem? Sean? :?:


Move it to blokePlace ! :shock:


Ah, but is your food as good as the bowling alley? :D
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Mark Finley » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:05 pm

scottw wrote:Has anyone been able to find out if the government "shutdown" will cause a problem? Sean? :?:


I sent them a message to ask. Let's see if they get back to me
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby bloke » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:12 pm

no worries… The gutter ad I just saw on my phone between the posts clarifies everything.
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:19 am

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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Mark Finley » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:04 am

The response I got...
Hi Mark! Thanks for your question. Yes we are planning everything and moving forward with the workshop. At the moment we don’t see any problems or anything being cancelled. Please spread the word for anyone that is worried and I’ll post about it here too. Thanks!

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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby bloke » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:28 am

Here's something I like:

Since "The buck stops here" absolutely pertains to Greater Washington, D.C., if there is some epic snowstorm, it's all gone within 12 hours or so. :shock:

One year, the "grand finale" (whatever they call it) concert was cancelled (and that *snowstorm was a doozie), but - by the next morning - all of the throughways were clear.

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*It had begun snowing when I decided to leave the conference for three or four hours and visit my probably-would-not-live-much-longer (she didn't) aunt in Alexandria. By the time our visit was done (my last-ever visit with her), it took me well over two hours to drive back to the west end of Arlington - where I was staying at my brother's home.
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Rick F » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:07 pm

But... can you count on that with the current on-going govt shutdown?
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby bloke » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:19 pm

Rick F wrote:But... can you count on that with the current on-going govt shutdown?


To be certain, our Washingtonian rulers consider that service to be "essential".
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby PhilSloan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:22 pm

Speaking as a current Department of Defense employee, the partial shutdown SHOULDN'T affect things in any way as DoD funding was set aside in a previous continuing resolution. Us DoD civilians and the uniformed military folks are still funded and being paid (thankfully).

I haven't attended for a few years but hope to make it up for at least a day or two of the workshop.
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Lee Stofer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:01 am

I'm planning to be there, partnering with Buddy Roger's Music of Cincinatti. I'm not sure what I'll be bringing yet, but besides a field repair shop, I'm planning to bring a couple of nice CC tubas, a very nice 3+1 compensating EEb, and whatever else I can get ready by then. If you're looking for something in particular let me know, as I just might have it!
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Three Valves » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:47 pm

Well that was nice. By 11am the place had thinned out and I got to try everything I wanted to, that showed up... Several venders lost a tuba or two.

I wanted to try the Wessex Viverna/Dragon, but lost.

The Grand is one BAT though!!

The BMB 744 is also a worthy instrument.

The winner with money no object; Miraphone Hagen, the 191 is very nice too. I did not like the piston version or it’s clone that I tried.

I tried the GR51 it sounds and feels great. But it’s no lightweight.

I liked the Eastmans a lot. Their GR51 copy was lost. But the larger bore instrument, that I liked in years past, impressed me again. The 2341 copy is excellent. Their 3/4 offering is nice.

The JP379B piggy-like tuba is really nice, smaller but doesn’t compromise nearly as much as the 3/4 piston model gives up.

If I were to get something a little smaller and lighter than I have now with a better low end it’s a toss up between the Eastman 2341 copy and the JP Piggy.

I’m reviewing when my exclusive Mack Brass Artiste contract expires... but I’ll have to drive down and play some of those newer models first... 8)
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Mark Finley » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:11 pm

Instruments they impressed me that I had not spent much time before, so I won't get into the standard hagen/Norwegian star/tuono talk....

Packer: the Sousa is as good as advertised. Might have been the most in tune horn I played all weekend. Great response in all registers and near perfect intonation. Seems well built too
The packer compensating Eb is awesome. If I can get over my hatred of 3+1, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Wessex. Holy cow, that new euphonium they have is fantastic. It's Lightweight, has a singing tone, and great intonation. They have a winner on their hands. It's not same old same old in any way.
The new wessex Kaiser tuba is a lot of fun. Seems to have a nice scale, and is very responsive. Holy cow it's a tall tuba though. Takes a while to used to.

The new BBb from Dillon was a winner. Love the size, response and scale. The valves felt a little sluggish and Matt said they might look into upgrading the linkage. That would help a Lot

Damn that 2250 F tuba from MW is amazing, as is the miraphone bel Canto. Both are incredible, and it comes down to a rotor /vs piston choice

Still on the lookout for a monster Eb. Haven't found it yet. Maybe someday

I'll think of others. Those are the ones that stick out in my mind. I played a great old piggy yesterday at Baltimore brass, went back today and it was sold. $1800. Should have jumped on it
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby Mark Finley » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:14 pm

Three Valves wrote:
The JP379B piggy-like tuba is really nice, smaller but doesn’t compromise nearly as much as the 3/4 piston model gives up.



I only play BBb



I have the short packer BBb. It's a great tuba. It sounds like an old 186 before they made the bell larger
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Re: Army Band workshop Jan 30-Feb 2nd, 2019

Postby bort » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:28 pm

Did anyone try Lee's Rudy 4/4?
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