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David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Peach » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:46 pm

Up a 4th I hear, with Orchestra.
What do we think of this?
I say good on him.

Can't think of much tuba rep being borrowed!
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby CC » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 pm

They've borrowed from that one for awhile now actually...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luk9Nd-Du-U
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Peach » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:08 am

CC wrote:They've borrowed from that one for awhile now actually...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luk9Nd-Du-U" target="_blank


True. Didn't RVW approve the Romance's performance on Cello or Bassoon? He must have liked it, or wanted more sales at least...
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby bloke » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:20 am

Though (sort-of out of necessity) I know the piece front-to-end, it doesn't seem like a piece that is - musically - particularly worthy of transcription for other instruments. Mvt. II is "pretty", but also short - and not particularly dramatic.

Several dozen tuba players in the world are capable of offering competent presentations of this piece, but I've just never seen it as a standing-O/musical-triumph type of piece.

I believe there are reasons why most successful concerti have been written for violin and piano.
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Jacob.Guilbeau » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:26 pm

VW wrote that Cello, Euphonium and Bassoon could perform the Romanza but only the Euphonium could perform it as written without scoring getting in the way.
http://vaughanwilliams.uk/letter/vwl2861
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Jacob.Guilbeau » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:27 pm

And here is his letter apparently giving permission for Denis Wright to arrange the entire Tuba Concerto up a fourth for Euphonium performance with Military or Brass Band accompaniment
http://vaughanwilliams.uk/letter/vwl3065
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Peach » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:53 pm

Jacob.Guilbeau wrote:VW wrote that Cello, Euphonium and Bassoon could perform the Romanza but only the Euphonium could perform it as written without scoring getting in the way.
http://vaughanwilliams.uk/letter/vwl2861" target="_blank


He rightly says Euph AND Bassoon can play it Un-fettled...
Never heard it on Bassoon!

Interesting letters - ta.
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby JasonEuphonium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:09 am

Since it's David Childs, I'm always excited to hear him play. Still the best solo performance I have ever seen live.

That said, I would personally be more interested in hearing a euph play the whole thing with orchestra at pitch. No octave displacement and no transposition. It's totally doable, and with recording magic I think it could sound very nice. Might not be enough push in the lower pedal stuff to come across live with an orchestra, but on a CD it would work marvelous IMO.
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Peach » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:10 am

JasonEuphonium wrote:Since it's David Childs, I'm always excited to hear him play. Still the best solo performance I have ever seen live.

That said, I would personally be more interested in hearing a euph play the whole thing with orchestra at pitch. No octave displacement and no transposition. It's totally doable, and with recording magic I think it could sound very nice. Might not be enough push in the lower pedal stuff to come across live with an orchestra, but on a CD it would work marvelous IMO.


I expect DC considered performing the VW at tuba pitch. I'll try to find out. Players like Childs would do a fine job live or studio I expect.
The John Williams was recorded by Charlie Vernon. Would make a good candidate for a Euph run...
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Re: David Childs records VW on Euph

Postby Snake Charmer » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:00 am

Having played it on Eb-tuba years ago I got curious now and tried it on the French C. Never thought about that before, but it is very comfortable to play, the range is just the same as most french pieces for the li'l one. So I think there will be no need for recording tricks for this.
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