What models of tubas do YOU like ?
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
I have owned two Mirafone 186s and a Conn 20J. I do like them. I have also played tested a King 2341, a Nirschel (not the hand made one) BBb, and a Jupiter 3/4 BBb that I liked.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
Here's my top 5 for contrabass tubas:
BBb
Martin mammoth
King rotary (large bore)
Conn 20J
York 33
King 1241/2341
(honorable mention to the Benson comp BBb)
CC
B&S Mr. P
Stofer-Getzen
Wessex York copy
Kalison DS
Meinl Weston 4/4
I don't have enough experience on bass tubas to rank any.
BBb
Martin mammoth
King rotary (large bore)
Conn 20J
York 33
King 1241/2341
(honorable mention to the Benson comp BBb)
CC
B&S Mr. P
Stofer-Getzen
Wessex York copy
Kalison DS
Meinl Weston 4/4
I don't have enough experience on bass tubas to rank any.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
Old Alexanders that play in tune (read: most Fs and BBbs, few CCs).
More broadly, pre-1980s German/Czech rotary valve horns.
More broadly, pre-1980s German/Czech rotary valve horns.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
Depends on what and where I'm playing. For example, my Alex gets the most use- in our band with two other Alexanders, it's hard to tell where my sound ends and Mark's and Jim's begin.
If I'm playing in a room with a low ceiling or other weird acoustics, I'll use the Marzan with its bi-radial bell (thanks Rick Denney for his explanation of this).
If there is no acoustical shell, as on Fourth of July where our band rides a flatbed truck, the 20J with its forward bell is perfect.
If I'm playing in a room with a low ceiling or other weird acoustics, I'll use the Marzan with its bi-radial bell (thanks Rick Denney for his explanation of this).
If there is no acoustical shell, as on Fourth of July where our band rides a flatbed truck, the 20J with its forward bell is perfect.
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
I can only talk compensators with any proper experience:
EEb:
Besson 981
Early 982
Yamaha Maestro and Neo
Avoid/check any later Besson, you know within 10 minutes whether a dud or not!
BBb:
Anything pre 1990 should be ok (New Standard/Imperial/992)
994 - Some are ok, some not
Yamaha Neo - great, previous model, not so
Both Willson and Hirsbrunner do good, but heavy and expensive, comnp BBb's
Avoid: Besson 994GS BBb's. ANY 992 or Imperial is better.
EEb:
Besson 981
Early 982
Yamaha Maestro and Neo
Avoid/check any later Besson, you know within 10 minutes whether a dud or not!
BBb:
Anything pre 1990 should be ok (New Standard/Imperial/992)
994 - Some are ok, some not
Yamaha Neo - great, previous model, not so
Both Willson and Hirsbrunner do good, but heavy and expensive, comnp BBb's
Avoid: Besson 994GS BBb's. ANY 992 or Imperial is better.
Andy Cattanach, UK
Fodens Band, Intrada Brass Ensemble.
Yamaha Neo BBb x 2 (2011 and 2016), B+H 3v Imperial BBb.
Yamaha YBL613H Bass Trombone.
Mercer and Barker MB5 Cattanach, Yeo Signature Mouthpieces.
Fodens Band, Intrada Brass Ensemble.
Yamaha Neo BBb x 2 (2011 and 2016), B+H 3v Imperial BBb.
Yamaha YBL613H Bass Trombone.
Mercer and Barker MB5 Cattanach, Yeo Signature Mouthpieces.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
Probably an unpopular opinion but I feel like Cerveny tubas are quite underrated specifically thier F tubas (especially the concordia) and their Kaiser BBb tubas the 696 or 601 models, and of course most people like the piggy.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
Agreed. I feel Cerveny works against themselves by being inconsistent with quality but also by having so many different models on the market that the consumer has no idea what's what.
Also like many tuba's they are not always easy to find.
Also like many tuba's they are not always easy to find.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
Miraphone:
Petroushka
Hagen 496
Seigfried
Meinl Weston
Ursus
Willson
The piston Eb whatever its called
Hirsbrunner
My HB50 (It's a very fine example).
Petroushka
Hagen 496
Seigfried
Meinl Weston
Ursus
Willson
The piston Eb whatever its called
Hirsbrunner
My HB50 (It's a very fine example).
Hirsbrunner HB50 w/Warburton 30DL
John Packer 377s w/Parker Cantabile
John Packer 377s w/Parker Cantabile
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
I have cycled through a dozen or so horns in the past few years. And I have settled on three that I REALLY like.
VMI/B&S 3301 BBb
VMI/B&S 3103 BBb
Mirafone 182 BBb
Why own three BBb tubas? Because I can!
VMI/B&S 3301 BBb
VMI/B&S 3103 BBb
Mirafone 182 BBb
Why own three BBb tubas? Because I can!
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Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
I like whatever model tuba the Dillon 1795 was based/cloned from.
Miraphone 184 maybe??
Not small, but lightweight.
Four rotors, BBb.
Miraphone 184 maybe??
Not small, but lightweight.
Four rotors, BBb.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
my answer:
Alexander 163 (CC)
why:
I can play it in tune
it allows me to put the pitch where I want it, I also played string bass for professionally and I know where I want the pitch
It has a wide range of tonal colors
It works in an orchestra, band, quintet, jazz group, etc.
I am used to playing this tuba (44 years)
I made more money using this tuba then any other instrument that I have owned
best,
Mark
Alexander 163 (CC)
why:
I can play it in tune
it allows me to put the pitch where I want it, I also played string bass for professionally and I know where I want the pitch
It has a wide range of tonal colors
It works in an orchestra, band, quintet, jazz group, etc.
I am used to playing this tuba (44 years)
I made more money using this tuba then any other instrument that I have owned
best,
Mark
Mark E. Chachich, Ph.D.
Principal Tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Life Member, Musicians' Association of Metropolitan Baltimore, A.F.M., Local 40-543
Life Member, ITEA
Principal Tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Life Member, Musicians' Association of Metropolitan Baltimore, A.F.M., Local 40-543
Life Member, ITEA
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
I’m not a professional, just a wannabe amateur, but have been playing for a long time by now, and have played a lot of horns, in BBb Eb and F. The one horn which sticks out in my memory as the best was an old Besson 3+1 compensating BBb, with a 16 1/2" bell, probably a 792, made mid to late 1960s. The horn was a school owned instrument at Indiana University, where I played sousaphone in the Marching Hundred fall semesters, and this Besson horn in Brass Band in the spring semester. It was very heavy and awkward with a really long stretch between the bottom now and the lead-pipe. But in spite of it's ergonomic issues, it was a player! Articulation was much easier on this horn. I seemed to be able to play cleanly, and with relative ease, passages which had always elluded me, or had at least been very difficult and garbled on the other horns I had played. I saw one of these horns, I pristine condition come up for sale on eBay last Summer, and am still kicking myself that I didn't get it. Horns I own include: 2 sousaphones (Reynolds Contempora and a big Conn 20K both from the 1950's). Everyone seems to want the Conns, but I prefer the Reynolds for intonation and articulation. A M&W 2141 Eb (modern era) a Miraphone TU-186 from the 1970's and a Boosey and Hawkes 3 valve compensating horn from the ~ 1980 which was a close as could come to that old Besson I missed.
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Re: What models of tubas do YOU like ?
I'll add the education I got from Charlie Krause right after he left WWBW. BBb tubas outsell all the other key tubas combined. Charlie never said anything concisely, bless his heart, but that is what he meant. His credentials? He sold $9 million in tubas his last year at WWBW.
(OK, it was Charlie so it was probably a little less than $9 million... but not by much!)
(OK, it was Charlie so it was probably a little less than $9 million... but not by much!)
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Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.