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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:50 am
by TexTuba

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:06 pm
by Tom
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It's a picture of someone's raw brass Gronitz PCM from bassclefbrass.com

Raw brass tubas don't have lacquer...that's why they're raw brass...

A freshly stripped tuba or a raw brass horn right out of the factory might look like it's lacquered (maybe the case with the 186 linked above) since the horn needs to be buffed after being stripped or assembled (as would be the case from the factory). In addition, how fast a horn tarnishes to the brownish color will depend on how much you handle it, the environment, and how often you polish it up. I just let my raw brass horn go, with no attempt to polish it, etc., but I think raw brass looks kind of cool 8)

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:47 pm
by tubacdk
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Re: raw brass horns

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:01 pm
by Rick Denney
cyras21 wrote:anyone have any pics?
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You've seen both of these in person before. The second one is a lot less shiny now than it was when the picture was made, and the first one has sort of settled into this look after ten years or so of not being polished.

Rick "who doesn't mind shine but who isn't willing to spend much money to get it" Denney

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:12 pm
by bort
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Very cool horn. I was wondering what was up with the 5th valve on that, but your webpage did a good job of answering that.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:53 pm
by Dan Schultz
Carl Wunderlich (GDR stencil)

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And this little Eb Frankenhelicon

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:13 pm
by bort
From bassclefbrass.com...

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:15 pm
by armytuba
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My big "bare brass" baby: 1950's Amati 5/4 BBb Helicon with 4 clockspring valves.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:12 pm
by Highams

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:35 pm
by dmmorris

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:40 am
by Highams
Thanks Jonathan.

5th = semitone, same as the second, only by then, the bore has increased quite a bit and you can get a much bigger sound.

Remember the euph is not compensating so a lot of the 4th. valve notes are quite sharp, hence the 5th.

Once you get used to the uncomfortable holding position, yes, it sounds really nice.

CB

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:18 am
by oldbandnerd
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Rexcraft offical Boy Scouts of America bugle .
I keep it wrapped up in some clean rags so it will not tarnish as fast. If I could find a zip lock bag big enough to keep it in I would not have to polish it every month or so.

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