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1950-51 King Sousaphone found and Needs tuning!

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:31 am
by ZerbTubs
Hello all!

I recently acquired an old sousaphone from a highschool I work for that is in great playing condition and plays most notes really in tune. The only problem I seem to have run into is that the D in the staff is absurdly sharp. Like, plays a 20 cent flat E flat kind of flat. Is that just the natural tuning tendency of this horn? I’ve tried playing it 3 but it only brings it down a little. Never really played sousaphone so I don’t know a whole lot regarding the instrument design and tendencies.

Re: 1950-51 King Sousaphone found and Needs tuning!

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:07 am
by The Big Ben
Do you have any experience playing the tuba? King sold zillions of those sousaphones so it probably isn't a design defect.

What happens when you play "D" 1-2? Can you get it in tune by pulling the #1 slide out? (any distance) Give that a try and come back and tell us what happens.

Re: 1950-51 King Sousaphone found and Needs tuning!

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:26 am
by WC8KCY
Have you had the instrument serviced since acquiring it? A foreign object lodged in the sousaphone could account for a bizarre intonation quirk--and being a former high school horn, there could be anything in there.

Re: 1950-51 King Sousaphone found and Needs tuning!

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:04 am
by ZerbTubs
The Big Ben wrote:Do you have any experience playing the tuba? King sold zillions of those sousaphones so it probably isn't a design defect.

What happens when you play "D" 1-2? Can you get it in tune by pulling the #1 slide out? (any distance) Give that a try and come back and tell us what happens.

Yeah I do! I was a primary sax player through highschool and I I switched tuba as my primary for drum corps so I’ve only ever marched contra or played a 186 CC. I’ve been playing heavily for about 4 years now. And I feel sure that would work, it’s just something I wanted to avoid having to do. 1-2 doesn’t bring it down enough on its own but pulling the slide is a little tricky with the lead pipe being as loose as it is.

Re: 1950-51 King Sousaphone found and Needs tuning!

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:13 am
by ZerbTubs
WC8KCY wrote:Have you had the instrument serviced since acquiring it? A foreign object lodged in the sousaphone could account for a bizarre intonation quirk--and being a former high school horn, there could be anything in there.
I have not! I ran a snake through and cleaned it as much as I could on my own in my apartment but no luck unfortunately. I’m going to take it in Monday and see what happens!

Re: 1950-51 King Sousaphone found and Needs tuning!

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:53 am
by WC8KCY
ZerbTubs wrote:
WC8KCY wrote:Have you had the instrument serviced since acquiring it? A foreign object lodged in the sousaphone could account for a bizarre intonation quirk--and being a former high school horn, there could be anything in there.
I have not! I ran a snake through and cleaned it as much as I could on my own in my apartment but no luck unfortunately. I’m going to take it in Monday and see what happens!
Sounds like a plan! I acquired a '60s King euphonium a few years back; snaking it out failed to detect, much less dislodge, the bottle of valve oil stuck in it--and yes, it seemed to play OK but the intonation had some strange quirks.