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travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:52 am
by Tremozl
Thinking of getting a CC Cimbasso at some point, really looking for that brassy low-end sound.

I'm wondering why it is that a CC pitched travel tuba might cost only $3-4k USD while a CC cimbasso, with maybe only 1 valve extra, just being in a more open / vertical configuration, is typically $12-25k USD?

An additional question would be, would it almost be worth it to have a travel tuba converted to a bell-forward configuration? Would probably only require having one or two new pieces of tubing created, so maybe an estimate could still fall under half the price of a Cimbasso?

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:00 am
by oscarcahue
Wessex already did a forward facing Travel Tuba. But it's in Bb only.

It's called the Mini Jazz Tuba.

https://wessex-tubas.com/collections/bb ... tuba-tb162" target="_blank

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:49 am
by bort
bloke wrote:If the goal actually is "practicing while traveling", a Miraphone model 184 C tuba (in a case) probably takes up less space than a contrabass cimbasso (in a case)...and (if flying) clothes and toiletry items can be stuffed around the 184.
Lousy picture, but this is a modified Mira 184 at BBC for travel purposes. $3,900

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A used Miraphone 184 5V 3/4 CC tuba. Assembled using a 184 body with a custom short bell and long lead pipe. All of the convenience of a travel tuba with the playability of a full size instrument. The best travel horn you can buy! Used w/mute, no case.

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:02 pm
by anotherjtm2
bloke wrote:If the goal actually is "practicing while traveling", a Miraphone model 184 C tuba (in a case) probably takes up less space than a contrabass cimbasso (in a case)...and (if flying) clothes and toiletry items can be stuffed around the 184.
Maybe the goal was to get a tuba with front bell and small enough bore that it might sound a little like a cimbasso for less expense. Seems like a real stretch to get the right sound, though.

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:44 pm
by hup_d_dup
anotherjtm2 wrote:
bloke wrote:If the goal actually is "practicing while traveling", a Miraphone model 184 C tuba (in a case) probably takes up less space than a contrabass cimbasso (in a case)...and (if flying) clothes and toiletry items can be stuffed around the 184.
Maybe the goal was to get a tuba with front bell and small enough bore that it might sound a little like a cimbasso for less expense. Seems like a real stretch to get the right sound, though.
The post is confusing. At first I thought he was looking for a travel instrument, but I think actually he just wants a cimbasso in CC, for cheap.

Hup

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:45 pm
by pjv
Have you ever played the two?

Cimbasso=open, lots of volume
Travel tuba=stuffy, not so much volume.

The Tornisters I've tried fall into the same category as the Travel tuba's, but mileage may vary.

My opinion is that a travel tuba is great if you have money to burn. But so is a private jet.

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:31 pm
by Tremozl
bloke wrote:If the goal actually is "practicing while traveling", a Miraphone model 184 C tuba (in a case) probably takes up less space than a contrabass Cimbasso (in a case)...and (if flying) clothes and toiletry items can be stuffed around the 184.
Hmm, I'd describe my goal as having more of a low and brassy sound projected with bell towards an audience or microphone :)
pjv wrote:Have you ever played the two?

Cimbasso=open, lots of volume
Travel tuba=stuffy, not so much volume.

The Tornisters I've tried fall into the same category as the Travel tuba's, but mileage may vary.

My opinion is that a travel tuba is great if you have money to burn. But so is a private jet.
Only managed to play an F Cimbasso so far, pretty fun, but I'd want something pitched lower for myself. I play BBb Contrabass Trombone; I just like the sound of that F1 and below to be partials instead of fundamentals, and am thinking of a valved horn in CC for the fun of it.

The Rudi Meinl CC Cimbasso sounds amazing in all the soundtracks I've heard it in, basically thinking of how to get the sound of that horn out of something much cheaper, haha. Maybe my idea of bending a cheap travel tuba is a little far fetched.

I've edited my OP a bit to provide more clarity for anyone else who sees the thread. Was also curious as to why an instrument with theoretically a very similar amount of tubing in it would be so much cheaper.

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:29 pm
by Tremozl
bloke wrote:yeah...ok...I get it.

I have a really nice cimbasso...and I wouldn't trade it for a hundred "travel tubas" (regardless of length).
Fair enough

Re: travel tuba vs. cimbasso

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:37 pm
by bort
Cimbasso in soundtracks... :roll: