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Postby TubaNinja » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:00 pm

I've been contacted by parents asking about getting Zoom lessons for their kids over the Summer. I'm thinking this could be a HUGE opportunity for extra income & easy to not leave my house. Any ideas how I might market this to get the news out to music stores & band directors across the country. If I do this, students don't need to be from just around my area.

Any ideas?
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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby windshieldbug » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:50 pm

You will be limited by network delays, hardware issues, sub-optimal sound reproduction and student access. Almost all universities completed their semesters this way, and were not happy with it. FYI
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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby Matt G » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:26 am

For the frequency range the tuba occupies, audio reproduction is usually an issue.

I’ve been thinking about this a bit and how I would go about things if I were teaching.

I’d probably have the students record pieces ahead of time and send me the clips requested. I’d then listen these over and take notes. Then I’d have a roughly 30 minute call to discuss the notes and maybe do a few live diagnostic/curative things. Given the time split, I’d charge for one hour.

A lot of athletic coaching has been done online with video recordings and feedback which has been somewhat successful. For music lessons, I’d want to combine that with some live dialogue.
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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby MikeMason » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:02 pm

@MattG. That’s exactly what I’ve settled on. Maybe record and play or send examples back to them. Regular cell phone call is much less laggy than zoom.
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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby bobn » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:36 pm

One tip: within Zoom there is a setting to “enable original sound” and it is important to have your student click on this or else the audio quality is terrible. This can be found in different places depending on whether they use a phone, iPad, tablet or laptop.

I do agree with having the student do some recording in advance. In addition to the sound quality being better than live streamed, it ends up being a great practice tool for them trying achieve a “good enough” submission.

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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby smileatom » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:52 pm

It depends on the quality of the mic on your laptop. I have been giving zoom lessons, sometimes it works sometimes not. When it doesnt, an iPhone and Facetime works just fine in its place.
The mic of the iPhone can handle it.
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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby anotherjtm2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:06 pm

smileatom wrote:It depends on the quality of the mic on your laptop. I have been giving zoom lessons, sometimes it works sometimes not. When it doesnt, an iPhone and Facetime works just fine in its place.
The mic of the iPhone can handle it.


Is FaceTime in particular good for this? Are there other specialized tools that do better than Zoom, Skype, or Webex?
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Re: Zoom Private Lessons...

Postby smileatom » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:12 am

Facetime on an iPhone or a mac tends to be ok. I have a blue podcasting microphone on my mac which is OK. But Im the listener in the scenario. In general my frustration with Zoom may not even be zoom but the poor quality microphones and input processing on windows laptops with Zoom. This tends to waste about the first 15 mins of lesson time with a new student fiddling. Which is a drag. But I prefer to use Zoom *when it works* because I want to see the student play at a decent angle. So I can see how they are breathing and relating to the instrument. With facetime, this gets lost because its recording at a very narrow angle and unless the student has a big enough room to back up a bit, I cant really see what their doing. But the sound on Facetime on an iPhone playing the tuba is just fine.

Webex is more or less the same or worse than Zoom. Skype I havent tried but since its going to be used on a cheap laptop usually it may exhibit the same issues.
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