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Looking to pickup a CC Helicon, or BBb candidate for modification. Any info appreciated.

Thank you all, this is a fantastic community, I really do appreciate all the leads that came in over the past several weeks.

Mike

Yep, me too! [Gets in line]

If all else fails, maybe we could find a few more nutters like us and place a custom volume order with JinBao!

Ive got a Martin Mammoth sousa Body, with a trimmed Mira 186 bell. I also have an old .860 kaiser helicon valve set (4 valves, no tubes, rotor body only)

Yes, available.

For what it's worth, I finally got around to having Dan Oberloh do a valve job on that 38K CC project I picked up a while ago... Summer is going to be super busy, but once I can finish that cool old Conn up I'll be listing it here... or at least posting pics of the rebuild... I'm too dorky not to keep such a cool sousaphone, but I've got other projects to fund and other sousaphones I gig on, so rather than relearn all my head charts up a step I'd probably sell it anyway...

I bet Wessex is working on this!

UncleBeer wrote:I bet Wessex is working on this!

Not fast enough for my summer gigs!

Heliconer wrote:Ive got a Martin Mammoth sousa Body, with a trimmed Mira 186 bell. I also have an old .860 kaiser helicon valve set (4 valves, no tubes, rotor body only)

Yes, available.

How does the Martin play? Do you have any pics?

I have a CC sousa for sale in the classifieds. Could be good starting point!

If I were looking for a CC helicon, I would either go for the prototype CC already mentioned, or Carl's 4V Sousa ( viewtopic.php?f=25&t=79131" target="_blank )

Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.

Or...

Just play a BBb sousa (not my preference either)

DouglasJB wrote:If I were looking for a CC helicon, I would either go for the prototype CC already mentioned, or Carl's 4V Sousa ( viewtopic.php?f=25&t=79131" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank )

Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.

That Dynasty's leadpipe goes directly into the valve circuit, leaving no substantial cylindrical tubing to be removed. Many Buescher, King, and Jupiter (only 3V version) models have about 2ft of tubing before the valve circuit as the main tuning slide.

Any other configuration such as this Dynasty would involve removing conical tubing... not only would this be taxing on the tech ($$$$), it would produce unpredictable intonation issues (such as partials not in tune with each other).

DouglasJB wrote:If I were looking for a CC helicon, I would either go for the prototype CC already mentioned, or Carl's 4V Sousa ( viewtopic.php?f=25&t=79131" target="_blank" target="_blank )

Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.

Or...

Just play a BBb sousa (not my preference either)

I've got a master brass engineer/craftsman working on cutting a BBb Beuscher body down to a CC and grafting on a valve assembly. Once it's completed I'll post it to the board.