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Postby ufonium2 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:37 pm

I need to stand for one gig and don’t want to pay full price for a strap I may only use once. Anyone got one lying around they would sell for cheap?
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby Lars Trawen » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:00 am

Hi,
If you're not walking around it's better to use a tuba stand for standing play.
Otherwise the tuba weight could harm your backbone considerably.
https://produkte.k-m.de/en/Stands-and-accessories-for-instruments/Wind-instruments/14951-Tuba-performer-stand-black
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby the elephant » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:54 am

Lars Trawen wrote:Hi,
If you're not walking around it's better to use a tuba stand for standing play.
Otherwise the tuba weight could harm your backbone considerably.
https://produkte.k-m.de/en/Stands-and-accessories-for-instruments/Wind-instruments/14951-Tuba-performer-stand-black
Only a tip.
Good luck,
Lars


That thing would not hold the weight of my tubas, and it is about a foot too short for standing. Cool product, though. I like K&M stuff.

The OP's issue is price, however. He does not want to purchase a strap just to use one time so he is looking for a used one or to possibly borrow one. This stand is over-the-top for something like one use. It costs about $120! He would not make much money if he had to spend $120 just to get to the gig...
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby opus37 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:13 pm

You might want to be a bit more specific. How big (or which) horn are you using? Does it have rings for a strap? If it has rings, you should be able to go to your local camping store and find something that will work in a pinch for not too much money. A guitar strap might also work. If it doesn't have rings, it's a bit more complicated. If you are looking to borrow a harness, you might let us know where you are located and when you need it.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby Lars Trawen » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:26 pm

the elephant wrote:That thing would not hold the weight of my tubas, and it is about a foot too short for standing. Cool product, though. I like K&M stuff.

Hi Elephant,
I've used it for many years for my MW 200 Kaiser tuba and have never had any problem neither with weight nor height. I'm 6'2" tall.
Please check the max height! Sorry, I don't understand what you are complaing about.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby the elephant » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:09 pm

Lars Trawen wrote:
the elephant wrote:That thing would not hold the weight of my tubas, and it is about a foot too short for standing. Cool product, though. I like K&M stuff.

Hi Elephant,
I've used it for many years for my MW 200 Kaiser tuba and have never had any problem neither with weight nor height. I'm 6'2" tall.
Please check the max height! Sorry, I don't understand what you are complaing about.
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Not complaining, just pointing out fact. I own one. It is too short for me and I do not trust it to support my two large horns.

My comment about your reply to the OP is that you answered a question he never asked. You seem to have missed his point, as I stated. I am sorry you do not understand that. It truly don’t know what else I could do to be more clear. Sorry about that.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby ufonium2 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:11 pm

I have a compensating EEb (3+1) and it has rings. I am walking/strolling, but only for like 20 minutes so I’m not concerned about my back. I’m relatively small (5’6” and female) but so is the tuba. I have a sousaphone I usually use for standing, but this needs a (mobile) concert tuba. I’m in the Chicago suburbs. I think I have a lead on a harness, but would welcome suggestions.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby fourbass » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:05 am

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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby tofu » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:59 am

Way back (40 years ago) when I had one horn to use for everything & no money - what I used was a leather shoulder strap from an overnight bag that I had bought to use for college interviews at a local garage sale for 50 cents. Had quick disconnects on both ends for the strap rings on the horn and a leather pad where it would normally rest on your shoulder for the overnight bag. Strap was adjustable and worked pretty well on a huge, heavy and ungainly tall tuba. I bet if you look around your house you might just have something from a back pack/overnight bag etc. I bet even the rubber tie down straps for tying down loads for car top racks and pickup trucks would work in a pinch or even those ratching adjustable tie down straps you can buy super cheap at a big box store. May not be perfect, but for one gig probably workable. Maybe even one of those slings that people use to hold small kids on their chest could be modified. A little ingenuity goes a long way.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby opus37 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:15 am

ufonium2 wrote:I have a compensating EEb (3+1) and it has rings. I am walking/strolling, but only for like 20 minutes so I’m not concerned about my back. I’m relatively small (5’6” and female) but so is the tuba. I have a sousaphone I usually use for standing, but this needs a (mobile) concert tuba. I’m in the Chicago suburbs. I think I have a lead on a harness, but would welcome suggestions.


If you think you might ever need a strap or harness again, the neotec suggested is a good investment. I've had one for years, use it sparingly, but when needed, it is perfect. Walking and strolling for 20 minutes is a long time. It might be worth it for your piece of mind and your back/comfort. Barring that, get something from your local camping store. It needs to wide and have padding. Maybe a rifle sling will work. You are carrying a small horn, but they get really heavy and hard to play over the time period you are playing.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby humBell » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:04 am

I got one of them neotech harness and for the most part i have to reinvent how to use it each time, partly because i remove it entirely, but also 'cause i use it infrequently enough i am often trying a different cheap betten up old tuba in it.

It is very flexible, but different tubas line up with things differently, and i rarely feel quite satisfied that i couldn't have done it better and been more comfortable if i'd only thought a little harder. And that i think is mostly the tuba's fault for being difficult.

I kinda think any way you can get some of the weight to rest on your hips, you win in the long term and presumably the rest on your shoulders such that your arms are taking minimal weigh. Have a comfortable wrist position for your top action hand is key. In that sense, depending on where the rings are, a belt between them going over a should and holding it at a 45 degree angle can work okay.

Anyway them's my thoughts. Hope some of that proves useful. If you have a knob on your bottom bow and find a way to use it, you get style points in my book.
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Re: Strap/Harness

Postby TheGoyWonder » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:27 pm

just use the sousaphone anyways. this is a bad idea. you already have the solution, a sousaphone. nobody cares if it is "appropriate" or not. play good and it will sound good.
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