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WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby bort » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:02 am

Is anyone out there selling, or planning to sell a Miraphone 188 in *gold brass*?

I have a few leads on some very fine yellow brass 188's... which I will certainly consider... but having previously owned a gold brass 188, I remember those as being just a little bit "sweeter", and worked even better for me than the yellow brass (which was already great).

As a reference, I used to own an "Anniversary Model" 188 in gold brass, which was a very special tuba that I think about constantly. It was great, and I never should have sold it. I have no expectation of finding another one of those, so apart from that, my preference would be for an older 188 in gold brass, or as new of a 188 in gold brass as possible. If my budget allowed, I'd just buy a brand new gold brass 188... and I'm close to doing that, but want to check the used market first.

Anyone selling, or thinking about selling a gold brass Miraphone 188?
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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby bort » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:22 am

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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby Ace » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:56 am

Brett, I'm understanding of your plight. I wish I had not sold my beautiful gold brass Miraphone 188 a few years ago. I've regretted it ever since. As you know, it's a great horn. Hope you find what you are looking for.

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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby Bill Troiano » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:23 am

Brett, What's the difference between a gold brass 188 and an Anniversary Model 188? I bought the later back in the late 80's. To me, the sound was dark and dull - like a regular 188 with the upper frequencies missing. I tried to like it. It was the most beautiful tuba I had ever seen up until that point. After a few months, I sold it.
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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby the elephant » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:46 am

Bill Troiano wrote:Brett, What's the difference between a gold brass 188 and an Anniversary Model 188? I bought the later back in the late 80's. To me, the sound was dark and dull - like a regular 188 with the upper frequencies missing. I tried to like it. It was the most beautiful tuba I had ever seen up until that point. After a few months, I sold it.


I also have played and disliked a gold brass 188. It was dull, and the low register was unusually stiff. I have not had these issues with either the various yellow brass 188 tubas or the two silver plated ones (which were yellow brass beneath the plating).

Asking out of curiosity and not to sway your decision...
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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby bort » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:07 pm

Thanks Ace! The good news is, Miraphone made more than one... now, to find it!

Bill, the "Anniversary Model" was a name that I think might have been made up by the US importer, because the folks at Miraphone had no record of it. It was basically just a gold brass 188, but the entire valve section was nickel silver (leadpipe, all valve slides, and everything up until the main tuning slide). It was built in the mid 80's, so it had the older, wide kranz on the bell. I don't think it was old enough to be one of the handmade/thinner metal versions of the 188.

I'll have to dig up a photo of my old tuba later on.

That tuba was great! I bought it from Dillon's, and everyone there really liked it too... as does the current owner (who is smart enough to not sell it!). Perhaps the nickel silver valve section made it more rigid than other 188's, or at least in the hands of other people... but for me, that tuba looked and sounded great. I tested it against another gold brass 188 and a yellow brass 188, and preferred it to both of those.

I think the new gold brass 188's are excellent as well, and to be honest, the yellow brass is still great. Just that the gold brass Miraphones have been consistently better to me than the yellow brass ones.

(Sidebar -- I once tried a brand new 186 4-valve CC... that thing was amazing. A little smaller than I wanted, but it was extraordinarily easy to play.)
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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby Stephen Shoop » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:03 pm

I am the current owner of Brett's Anniversary Model 188. Fabulous instrument! I also own a gold brass 186 Mirafone from about 1987 and a yellow brass 186 from the 1982/1983 era. All very good instruments.... each with individual strengths and weaknesses. I still refer to the 188 as "Brett's 188" Steve Shoop
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Re: WTB: gold brass Miraphone 188

Postby bort » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:12 pm

Stephen Shoop wrote:I am the current owner of Brett's Anniversary Model 188. Fabulous instrument! I also own a gold brass 186 Mirafone from about 1987 and a yellow brass 186 from the 1982/1983 era. All very good instruments.... each with individual strengths and weaknesses. I still refer to the 188 as "Brett's 188" Steve Shoop


That's funny, because I call it "Steve's 188" :)

But really, it's great to know this tuba is being played regularly by someone who is a far better tuba player than myself!
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