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King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby bloke » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:58 am

A local parent was looking for a 4/4 four-valve front-action B-flat tuba for her son...but with a somewhat low budget.

I picked up this old 1241 King (probably "Magnavox" era) with a mismatched (different color of lacquer) King 22" upright bell.
The pistons are not loose in their casings, and only a couple of them feature a spot or two of plating failure.

The bottom bow was badly smashed, but nothing else had really been that seriously damaged.
The lacquer on the bell interior looks bad (from past crease-ironing and subsequent lacquer failure), so I'll go back over the bell once more, and re-lacquer the bell interior.

Mrs. bloke and I team up on smashed bottom bows with a "rebound" method.
This involves her swinging a 3-pound sledge hammer as hard as she can (yet with a very controlled limited swing) hitting a curved steel rod, and me holding the smashed-in areas of bottom bows precisely over a large steel football-shaped dent ball (mounted on that curved steel rod) with strong pressure.
Do any of the rest of you team up with an associate to "pre-repair" bottom bows in this manner?

Here's just one shot of the bow after the rebound method "pre-repair" and ALSO after a subsequent quick run-through on the dent machine.
You can see one of the over-inch-deep formerly smashed-in areas (telltale missing lacquer).

I'll stick a new guard wire on this after breakfast, touch up the lacquer, and I'll hopefully be calling these folks (letting them know that this instrument is ready to buy) sometime this afternoon...after other minor dents throughout are addressed, the bell is addressed, and the #1 piston is made to work just a bit more smoothly.

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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby The Big Ben » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:01 pm

Interesting methodology. It will take a few years of playing before the young student realizes how good of a horn he has. Glad there is a bloke who can get him what he needs.
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby bloke » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:25 pm

The Big Ben wrote:Interesting methodology. It will take a few years of playing before the young student realizes how good of a horn he has. Glad there is a bloke who can get him what he needs.


I played the same thing in high school (H.N. White) with only 3 VERY-VERY leaky valves...
...but we didn't beat stuff up, back then...We just wore it out playing it...
...and schools did just fine (far better than now) with 1-cent-per-dollar sales tax.
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby Three Valves » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:00 pm

I’d be “happy” if my property tax were that low again... :(

I can’t fathom how you pop those bows off and back on again in a matter of hours. 8)
Who needs four valves??

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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby bloke » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:35 pm

Frankly, I dragged my @$$ around a bit today. Not really "sick", but...(stressful Army Conference trip, etc...) my guts didn't feel all that great, and because I had a bunch of paper/computer-work on which I had to catch up...

...but - in spite of not being particularly energetic, today - the entire body of this King tuba is D. O. N.E. done.

I have a weekend of out-of-town rehearsals beginning tomorrow evening (and two or three scheduled-with-others afternoon errands prior), but I may well finish it by lunchtime and - if so - I'll give the lady a call and let her know that Mrs. bloke has it here waiting for her.

I may stick up a picture or two of the "ready-to-be-picked-up" tuba, but - well - it's not for sale, so...

...Do any of you care about seeing it?
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby The Big Ben » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:29 am

bloke wrote:..

...Do any of you care about seeing it?


Of course. Pictures are always good. Pleeeezz?
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby tofu » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:45 am

The Big Ben wrote:
bloke wrote:..

...Do any of you care about seeing it?


Of course. Pictures are always good. Pleeeezz?


I want to see the video of Ms. Bloke swinging that 3 pound sledge hammer while he's got the football. Bet he stays on her good side that day. :lol:
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby bloke » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:03 am

It's always "Say when!" :shock:

Seldom, she misinterprets (my fault) something as me having said "when!", but - nearly always, when that happens, I'll have a tuba's bottom bow positioned nearly exactly where it needs to be, so no bad "outie" dents have ever occurred due to misfires.
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby roughrider » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:56 pm

Pictures, please!!
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby MN_TimTuba » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:35 pm

"When I nod my head, you hit it."
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby bloke » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:27 pm

MN_TimTuba wrote:"When I nod my head, you hit it."


...yeah, but my advancing Parkinson’s symptoms...
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Re: King 1241 4-valve: quick flip

Postby MN_TimTuba » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:10 pm

Just make sure there's a difference between a "nod" and a "shake". You know, like the difference between p and mp dynamics in a tuba section.
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