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Is this red rot? Should it be a deal breaker?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:28 pm
by tubacchus
I’m looking at a Miraphone 186 for sale, from the 70s. It sounds great, and it appears to be in excellent condition, but I noticed some spots on the leadpipe that appear to be red rot. Should this be a deal breaker? Opinions? Suggestions?

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Any help is greatly appreciated.

Re: Is this red rot? Should it be a deal breaker?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:54 pm
by tubacchus
Thank you for the viewpoint and the cleaning recommendation.

Re: Is this red rot? Should it be a deal breaker?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:21 pm
by Radar
My 186 of similar vintage has similar spots on the lead pipe, I've had it chemically cleaned, and I try to clean it on a regular basis with dawn dishsoap and a brush. I've had other horns with these spots and never had one develop a hole. If it's only on the lead pipe, and you're getting a good price on it, what would it cost to replace the lead pipe if and when it develops a hole (which may never happen)? I personally if a liked the horn and the price was right wouldn't hesitate to buy it, and would use the red rot to try to negotiate the price down a little (it would help to know the cost of a newly installed Miraphone lead pipe going it) then ask the seller to split the cost of a new lead pipe.

Re: Is this red rot? Should it be a deal breaker?

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:33 pm
by hammerhead48
I had to replace a lead pipe on a 1978 Miraphone 186. $ 900.00