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What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Tundratubast » Wed May 08, 2019 8:46 am

I'm a small shop and now have a couple of KIng bones in for overhauls. What is the recommended method and materials to strip old KING lacquers.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby the elephant » Wed May 08, 2019 3:51 pm

A hot lye bath is what was used on King orange lacquer in shops back when we could use chemicals that were effective. The closest you can get to that AT HOME the closest you will get is using Easy-Off over cleaner, which is nasty af and needs some safety equipment. I would use a respirator (not one of those crappy little masks) and chemical gloves. An chemical apron would be great, and some sort of long lob coat-type garment. The respirator needs to have full eye protection, too, or you need excellent eye wear that can seal all the way around. Easy-Off sucks to use, period. You do NOT want to inhale even a tiny bit. Be safe. Watch YouTube videos on using it to strip stuff to get ideas for what setup you will need and what safety stuff you will want to have. Good luck!

PS - Clear lacquer is not the same stuff, and is very late to the party or was applied by someone else. It strips normally. I use "Aircraft Remover" gel stripper. I do NOT use their aerosol formula unless I am going to use the whole can in one usage in one day. It clogs permanently after about 24 hours from the first time you spray it.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby BuddyRogersMusic » Wed May 08, 2019 8:28 pm

FYI, Aircraft stripper has been pulled from the shelves by EPA edict and for the protection of consumers...blah, blah, blah. Not sure if business purchasers can still obtain it but retail sources have ceased selling it. Just as I find something that works pretty well.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby the elephant » Wed May 08, 2019 9:03 pm

Seriously? I just bought a half gallon at AutoZone recently. Must have been the last of it. Damn.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Dan Schultz » Wed May 08, 2019 11:11 pm

Aircraft Stripper is still available. However... it won't touch the old King 'Eastlake Orange' lacquer. EZ-Off Oven Clean (the real stuff... NOT Dollar Store, etc. brands) does a nice job as long as the horn hasn't been exposed to soldering temperatures. Squirt it on in a well ventilated area... wait ten minutes or so... and hose it off.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby the elephant » Thu May 09, 2019 12:26 am

That is pretty much what I said... :mrgreen:
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Dan Schultz » Thu May 09, 2019 10:00 pm



Looks like stores have 180 days after 3/15/2019 to deplete their stocks. I haven't had any problem buying Aircraft Stripper from my normal sources.

Keep an eye on body supply houses to see what they are selling to take off automotive finishes. If methylene chloride does indeed go away... I'm sure there will be some sort of new formulation. This stuff is just too important to the autobody industry to stay dead for long.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Tundratubast » Thu May 16, 2019 4:35 am

Thanks everyone, I'm glad spring is coming to move the project outdoors.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Tanker_5455 » Mon May 27, 2019 12:20 pm

By the way, is there something I should pay attention to when working with that kind of stuff under a warm climate with salty seaside air? The thing is that my wife and I are planning to buy one of these villas in Greece and move there on a semi-permanent basis, and that sort of lacquer is something I encounter a lot when working on instruments or furniture. However, so far, I've only been working with it under a cold-ish continental climate.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Dan Schultz » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:36 am

I visited O'Reily Auto Parts and AutoZone today. Both have been caught up in the hype and have pulled Aircraft Stripper from their shelves. The ban isn't actually official but apparently marketing doesn't want to get stuck with something they might not be able so sell.

EDIT .... I picked up a gallon of Kwik-Strip at Walmart thinking I might be wasting almost $40. I figured if it worked at all it wouldn't work as quickly as Aircraft Stripper. I brushed a liberal coating on a helicon that's in the shop and left for a little over an hour while I dropped off a bell at Greyhound. Once back to the shop I power washed the horn and the very heavy lacquer came right off. Kwik-Strip works on lacquer but just takes longer.

The good news is.... while I was out I stopped at Advance Auto Parts and they still had Aircraft Stripper so I scored two gallons and three quarts. Hopefully... I'll have enough to keep me going until a suitable replacement for the 'good stuff' hits the market.
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby Tundratubast » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:01 pm

Wade & Dan,

This old "King Orange" lacquer must be what is on the original (no slide lock, compression/friction fit bell to slide) King Liberty trombone. Aged enough that it looks to be a dark bronze to copper finish. Maybe I'll just clean it and leave it alone. It's a nice even patina on the "lacquer". I'll just polish up the nickel finish.

Thanks, David
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Re: What to use to strip King Lacquer at home????

Postby the elephant » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:57 am

Sounds like a plan, man. That stuff is a PITA to remove, so if it does not look terrible I would just leave it. You can always decide to remove it at a later date. The stuff is bomb proof.
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