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Postby bloke » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:44 am

only "after" pictures...

A school handed me four (thin-wall - modern era) King sousaphones...the ones with the stick-on plastic guard wires.

The "bottom bow" (2nd branch) was more than 50% caved in, and actually concave, YET, I was able to (and no, *I'm not saying that anyone could do it...It wasn't that easy...) completely straighten it out with earth magnets (and a few pre-magnet whacks with a large rawhide mallet along the rim of the large concave area).
...and sure: The first branch (the one that trails along behind the player's back) was trashed, too, but only "regular trashed".

bloke "thin" :roll:

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*This sort of work really requires a great deal of wrist/hand/finger strength...the type not typically acquired from "working out" in a gym, etc...
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby roweenie » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:51 pm

Nice job (no surprise), bloke.

It's sad to think that once back in circulation, the beauty likely won't last :cry:
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby bloke » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:22 am

There were two more of these King thin-walls.

Two were badly beat-up, and the fourth was just as badly caved-in as the one pictured.

' no more pictures...
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby roweenie » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:38 pm

bloke wrote:no more pictures...


I keep telling myself, "next project, I'll take more pictures" - unfortunately, I don't have the discipline to follow through.

I actually admire those of you who can accomplish this :tuba:
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby bloke » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:09 pm

from Conn-Selmer today via USPS:

elegant replacement stick-on gold-tone vinyl sousaphone branch guards :roll:

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perspective note: Yes, those pine boards are remarkably wide.
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby The Brute Squad » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm

roweenie wrote:I keep telling myself, "next project, I'll take more pictures" - unfortunately, I don't have the discipline to follow through.

I actually admire those of you who can accomplish this :tuba:


I probably have the opposite problem: no problem taking pictures, don't have the discipline to do any repair projects. :mrgreen:

I admire more those of you with the skill and discipline to do that.
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby bloke » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:21 pm

I only do it for filthy lucre, as it beats having a J.O.B.(B.I.E.)...as I've never had a J.O.B.

Every few years, I indulge in a so-called "project", but never for the amusement of others...only for my own.
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby The Brute Squad » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:52 pm

bloke wrote:I only do it for filthy lucre


Even doing it for the filthy lucre. I could never fix things for a living. I'm much more adept at breaking them. :twisted:
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby Tubajug » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:34 pm

Do those stick on guard wires provide any protection at all? Are they stiff enough to do anything to prevent damage?
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby bloke » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:05 am

Tubajug wrote:Do those stick on guard wires provide any protection at all? Are they stiff enough to do anything to prevent damage?


They look nice, at first...
After a few months, they seem to "grow" either duct tape, electrical tape, masking tape, scotch tape, or packing tape.
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby toobagrowl » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:58 pm

Nice job as always bloke! That reminds me of way back in high school (so many memories from that time) when the band director had two old H.N. White-era King sousas -- a King 1250 and a 1270 'Giant' sousa refurbished/overhauled, complete with de-denting and new silverplating. Long story short, the upperclassmen got first dibs on the newly-refurbished King sousas. We were doing a space-theme show that year (E.T., Star Wars, Star Trek, etc.) where we had to run over to the frontline, put our sousas down quick, put on our 'alien' masks, and play cymbals for a short tune. The player on the King Giant kept putting his sousa down too hard every time -- I could hear the buckling of the brass every time he put it down hard on the ground. The bottom bow kept getting more and more crushed in until it was pretty much crushed in halfway and completely out of round. I got to play that sousa after he graduated, and I thought it played and sounded great, even with the crushed in bottom bow. I took it to the "fix it man" so he could re-solder the wire at the top of the female bell tenon because it kept coming loose. He was called "Dan the fix-it man" :roll: who did on the spot repairs free for the band. He blamed me for the caved-in bottom bow because he never noticed it until I had that sousa :roll: I told him it was already like that from the previous player, but he stated that the bottom bow wasn't like that before :roll:
Kinda pissed me off that old fart thought I did it, even though I was always carefull with any sousa I was playing :!:
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby bloke » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:44 pm

If he was the one who did the overhauls, I bet (trying to get the old concrete/asphalt scratches out of the bottom bow) it was HIM who buffed the CRAP out of that second branch (resulting in wall thickness similar to that found with the current-era King/Conn sousaphones)...so - in reality - it was HIS d@mn fault. :|
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby YORK-aholic » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:16 am

bloke wrote:perspective note: Yes, those pine boards are remarkably wide.


That was what caught my eye. Neat.
Some old Yorks, Martins and maybe a rotary King...
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby toobagrowl » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm

Just remembered to respond to this.....

bloke wrote:If he was the one who did the overhauls, I bet (trying to get the old concrete/asphalt scratches out of the bottom bow) it was HIM who buffed the CRAP out of that second branch (resulting in wall thickness similar to that found with the current-era King/Conn sousaphones)...so - in reality - it was HIS d@mn fault. :|


The band director (RIP) sent those sousas off to "the Midwest" (probably Borodi Music?) to be overhauled during the summer, right before my freshman year of high school. "Dan the fix-it man" was just a local guy doing repairs on-the-spot for the school. The local repair guy in town (who was really good, and has since moved his way up in a well-known music company) stated that Dan brought in many repairs to him because he basically f*cked up those repairs :lol: One of the sousas had a large crease taken out of the bell, complete with deep scarring. I asked one of the other sousa players how it happened, and he told me that Dan didn't set up the sousa securely on the wall-mount, and the sousa fell to the floor, so he had to repair that large crease. Did I mention how Dan had to re-solder the bell wire a couple times? That was all almost 25 years ago, but I remember it like it was yesterday. Yeah, Dan the fix-it man was, um, something else.... :roll:
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby Three Valves » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 pm

This kinda crap never happened to our fiberglass Sousas...
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Re: King sousaphone - fixed last night

Postby bloke » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:13 pm

Three Valves wrote:This kinda crap never happened to our fiberglass Sousas...


I would be quite happy if ALL high schools purchased King fiberglass sousaphones.
(Disagreeing with some opinions), they sound great, play in tune (even better in-tune than Conn), are a bit less work to play than Conn (infinitely easier to play than Taiwan sousaphones), are lightweight, are incredibly sturdy, and - well - we could devote energy and attention to things other than un-destroying silver plated (grey and brown) brass sousaphones year-after-year each summer...as our services are constantly in demand by all sorts of people, and not just "schools with trailer-loads of smashed-up sousaphones".
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