Swiss Conn?

MikeS · Post by **MikeS** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:33 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-CONN-Fluegel ... dZViewItem

I know this isn't a tuba, but I don't remember ever hearing about Conn importing horns from Switzerland. Can anyone on the list shed a little light on this?

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:05 pm

The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:20 pm

... but sure enough, that puppy said "Conn" on the bell and had what looked like "Switzerland" on the second valve casing!

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:32 pm

1972..probably a Willson; no?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:36 pm

At least it wasn't Chinese...

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:56 pm

A question, Mike...

How is it that flugels get away with no leadpipe taper at all? Every one I've seen just seems to have a hunk of straight tubing with a receiver on it.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:14 pm

I concur with your observation; the German rotary-valve and French piston-valve designs have no observable taper in the mouthpipe. The French CAN'T, since it is also the tuning slide.

Every conical horn, from flugel to tuba, has to have SOME cylindrical tubing to accommodate tuning and valve slides. In those style flugels, the cylindrical tubing is merely at the front, while the rest of the horn is an uninterrupted expansion.

Over-all, I suspect that the % remains the same in the bugle. Not being fluent in accoustics, I'm not sure I could prove it, but I suspect that it doesn't matter where in the bore it occurs.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:17 pm

windshieldbug wrote:Over-all, I suspect that the % remains the same in the bugle. Not being fluent in accoustics, I'm not sure I could prove it, but I suspect that it doesn't matter where in the bore it occurs.

So, if we put the valves up by the mouthpiece receiver on a tuba, we could get away with french horn valves?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:14 pm

Chuck(G) wrote:
windshieldbug wrote:Over-all, I suspect that the % remains the same in the bugle. Not being fluent in accoustics, I'm not sure I could prove it, but I suspect that it doesn't matter where in the bore it occurs.
So, if we put the valves up by the mouthpiece receiver on a tuba, we could get away with french horn valves?

Maybe, but my slant-rotor has them pretty close to the mouthpiece, and they're still PRETTY BIG!