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Saxhorn?

Postby Minkrott » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:08 pm

Is this a saxhorn? It is missing the leadpipe and mouthpiece. 5 keys for each hand.

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Re: Saxhorn?

Postby Tabert » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:26 pm

Looks like a sarrusophone to me.
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Re: Saxhorn?

Postby Donn » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:28 pm

Close! See if you don't agree with me that it's a Reed Contrabass.
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They're quite unusual, so obscure that we don't have much to go on as to how they sound - or didn't, the last time I looked, but now there's this bravura performance online, Reed Contrabass with Recorder Ensemble on Let's All Sing Like the Birdies Sing.

I had a chance to play a contrabass sarrusophone very briefly years ago, or try to play it anyway - it struck me as a pretty feeble contrabass. In the semi-famous Sidney Bechet contrabass sarrusophone solo, he sounds like he jumped right on the mike. The reed contrabass has a much wider bore, which I guess gives it more volume - enough to keep up with recorders, anyway - but at an obvious sacrifice in tone quality and pitch stability, so you have to practice like crazy, just to sound as good as a reed contrabass can sound, which is not very good. And I imagine you have to manufacture your own reeds.

Clarence Williams' 1924 record, Mandy, Make Up Your Mind, with Sidney Bechet on contrabass sarrusophone.

Note that the instrument for sale apparently is missing its "bocal", and it's going to be awfully hard to find a replacement! That's the equivalent to the "neck" of a saxophone, and of course its exact dimensions are quite critical to the sound quality, such as it may be.
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Re: Saxhorn?

Postby the elephant » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:45 am

The sax horn family gets its name from its maker, just like the saxophone. They are a full family of brass instruments, just like the saxophones are a full family of woodwinds. They have piston valves, not keys.

Beyond sharing the name of their maker (Adolphe Sax) they are unrelated save in the concept of being a complete, matched family of instruments.

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Re: Saxhorn?

Postby Minkrott » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:22 am

Yes Donn, I believe you are right. Here is more detail and pictures.

http://www.contrabass.com/pages/anche.html" target="_blank
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Horn with bocal, but not reed mouthpiece.
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Re: Saxhorn?

Postby Donn » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:12 pm

Saxhorn ensemble Opus 333 on Langsamer Satz, Anton Webern - all, I think, the same bass (?) size (9 foot), and I get the impression that these days that's the family member that has really survived under that name. I think most of the conical brass commonly found under other names (e.g., tuba) depart enough from the proportions that they couldn't really be called saxhorns, but the alto horn might qualify.
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Re: Saxhorn?

Postby Minkrott » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:11 pm

Currently over $1900. Ends in 4 hours.
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