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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:53 am
by windshieldbug
Watch out for some of those second chance offers. Real ones go through eBay, and you buy on the ebay site. Ones that ask you to reply to an address off ebay are likely nothing but trouble, though they use an eBay looking form to hook you. My .02

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:01 pm
by Dan Schultz
I checked the item you are talking about and it shows the winning bid to be $1,500 entered by 'hannacroix'. There don't appear to have been any retractions. I think you are being scammed by a third party. Why don't you email the seller and the winning bidder and find out for sure.

It's a scam.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:30 pm
by cheburashka
Still a scam.

They cut and past a Second-Chance-Offer email from Ebay and send it to you. If it's a real SCO, they'll set up an actual auction that only you can bid on. You'll do it all through Ebay, just as if it were a regular seven day auction, but there will be a fixed price of $1200.

If it were legit, you'd know. You'd have an auction number for the actual SCO.

I got three fake SCOs on a scam auction for a Shires trombone that I bid on with a fake account. They're getting sneakier.

careful!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:41 pm
by billeuph
Fake second chance offers that I've received have been pretty slick. Be very careful. The only way to be sure is to go back to the auction page and contact the seller directly, and also the high bidder, to confirm.

Better yet, wait a while and find a better deal. This is a very common euphonium (not baritone)- a Yamaha YEP 321S (that's and S not an 8 as the seller claims). Search for others. There is one in the final day of auction right now for $900, though it will probably go higher. Without inspecting the euph to be sure of its condition, I would consider $1200 to be a bit high for an Ebay horn, given the risks of dealing with Ebay sellers.

Bill Anderson

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:57 pm
by Lew
Also, if you have responded to the 'second chance offer' by responding in any way to the email, immediately change your ebay password! Only respond to offers by going to "my eBay" and replying to messages that show up there. If the message isn't there it's not legit.

$1200 isn't a bad price for this horn if it's in as good shape as described. Not a steal, but a reasonable price. Still, the vast majority of second chance offers are scams.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:06 pm
by Brassdad
glad you made the chioce not to go there.
Recently I had bid on 6 different tubas within a weeks time (Miraphones, Yamahas, Conn, B&S) with each auction going past my high bid.
less than 48 hours after the last one ended, I received a SCO on each one :roll: .
What's more, although each tuba was listed by a different seller, all the SCOs came from the same address. I queried 2 of the sellers I'd have prefered to buy directly through ebay and received puzzeled responses indicating the sales had already gone through to the high bidder.
What's more these were followed up by ebay notice not to respond to the SCO.
Seems someone is watching the high priced items and working the system. They just seem to have gotten sloppy/greedy in my case.
I'm just glad that it wasn't just one offer or I might have bit. :cry:

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:25 pm
by DonShirer
Several years ago, when I was new to EbAY (and naiver), I was the second bidder on a YEB 621, and received a second chance offer when the highest bidder backed out. The offer was from a music store and after making sure that he was the original seller, I did accept the offer (and did receive the horn). Nowadays, with scams more common, I don't think I would respond without some sort of escrow payment arrangement.

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:36 pm
by WilliamVance
I received a secondchance offer before an item ended that I was bidding on, and I won the item anyways... Be real careful before paying for anything on a second change.