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Nope.... I ain't biddin'.... unless it goes for cheap!

FWIW, I believe that these are old B&S horns. You could do much worse for the money.

I may be dreaming but this looks just like a horn I played a while back somewhere that was marked as a Zeiss. PS, Dan - did you see that leadpipe? Flat as pita bread.

jeopardymaster wrote:I may be dreaming but this looks just like a horn I played a while back somewhere that was marked as a Zeiss. PS, Dan - did you see that leadpipe? Flat as pita bread.

Yeah.... that leadpipe does have a couple of 'dings' in it Don't know about the Zeiss tubas but this one is the same as Sonora, Gerhart Schneider, and Carl Wunderlick that were stencils made my B & S. I worked on a Zeiss (new bell) last week that had the same wrap configuration as this horn but I know it was made in Czechoslovakia (most likely Cerveny). There is another thread going about this, but I don't think any of the Zeiss tubas were made by B & S. The glaring differences are the configuration of the attachment plates. Cerveny and B & S have dramatic difference in that respect. Even the new B & S horns retain the same plate shape as this horn.

TubaTinker wrote: .... There is another thread going about this, but I don't think any of the Zeiss tubas were made by B & S. The glaring differences are the configuration of the attachment plates. Cerveny and B & S have dramatic difference in that respect. Even the new B & S horns retain the same plate shape as this horn.

I've seen Cerveny made Ziess tubas and B&S made Ziess tubas side by side. The B&S-made ones are identical to the Sonora, Schneider, Giardinelli, etc... I've seen fewer B&S made ones, but that's a limited sample.

Here's a B&S-made "Karl Ziess" tuba:

http://www.netinstruments.com/tubas/tub ... ary-valve/" target="_blank

cjk wrote:Here's a B&S-made "Karl Ziess" tuba:

Yup. I REALLY like the rubber bands on the linkages!