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Alexander Helicon

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Interesting looking, haven't seen an Alex Helicon before. Seems to be in decent shape...now if I'd not just recently bought a helicon, had a couple 1,000 laying around and wasn't needing to explain my actions to my wife....

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Conn 20/21J, 14k Sousa, 1920's Helicon
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Re: Alexander Helicon

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bloke wrote:I have a second cousin once removed named Alexander Helicon.
With my obvious limitations I cannot make any sense out the words “once removed” in this context. As a retired teacher I am a potential part of the pro-abortion population segment, but I am strongly opposed to abortion. And it doesn't help on my zero-tolerance towards that point to give the removed fetus a name. But then you likely expressed something much simpler and less controversial.

Before I understood how to use categories in eBay searches, I always ended up with a lot of watches along with a few brass related helicons. Among these the one below here found in 2003, likely a twin to the one discussed. I am not too happy about tuning slides too close to the mouthpiece, but in this case it makes good sense, as tuning can be handled on the fly by players knowing how to do that. No venting of valves necessary.

As none of these two Alexander helicons show signs of having their pitch lowered, they likely are post-WWI.

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I had no idea about this semantic aspect of removed. Having studied some linguistic theory with comparissons between sliding contents of apparently literal translations, I find removed being a surprisingly strong word in this context, but then I have no first hand relationship with English. We say one link (but meaning level) further out.

Anyway an Alexander like this one could be fun, only the shipping and the import taxes would bring the total costs out of proportions. Søren found two local Alexanders for me a week ago, but I abstained from the BBb because it was known to have an intonation calling for much practising and attention. The Eb could be have been interesting, but not enough to be Eb #5.

The Alexander I have is in G and circular. A good one for a single descant horn.

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Re: Alexander Helicon

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imperialbari wrote:I had no idea about this semantic aspect of removed. Having studied some linguistic theory with comparissons between sliding contents of apparently literal translations, I find removed being a surprisingly strong word in this context, but then I have no first hand relationship with English. We say one link (but meaning level) further out.
Which is what the English term expresses, though the word is no longer commonly used in this sense, outside of this expression. As a (rarely used) noun, remove means distance. So I suppose the English usage describes kinship in a spatial metaphor that focuses on separation, where Danish apparently focuses on connection ("link")?
Anyway an Alexander like this one could be fun, only the shipping and the import taxes would bring the total costs out of proportions.
Both of my helicons came from Germany, and the second suffered that way - the price nearly doubled, as I recall, but really I'm trying to forget. I also needed to meet it at the airport, visit customs etc. It was at least an interesting experience, the first time. But my first helicon arrived on my doorstep in a cardboard box with some expanded polystyrene scrap and (only) a Deutsche Post label, and the price was quite reasonable - I forget, $100 or so. I gather Deutsche Post is not what it was, so perhaps this is no longer possible (and of course not specifically germane to the present discussion.)
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