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six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:20 pm
by Tubadork

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:42 pm
by jtuba
I see this making it's way to Atlanta soon.

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:58 pm
by ASTuba
jtuba wrote:I see this making it's way to Atlanta soon.
I think it would make for nice duets with a contrabass trombone. Maybe trios with a serpent???

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:02 pm
by MaryAnn
Drooooooooool.

MA

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:02 pm
by jhedrick
Bydlo (or is it bid-low :lol: ) here I come!

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:37 pm
by Tubadork
It's tempting, but I don't think I'm gonna bite on it.
And check this out from the description:

This instrument is esentialy new, was purchased for a school bid that never came to pass.

SCHOOL BID?????? Wha? what school would try to get a french c tuba?
oh well
Bill

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:06 pm
by MaryAnn
I see it was worth $3049 to someone in Japan.

MA

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:37 pm
by tbn.al
Japan has all the money. Come to think of it, didn't we severly disrupt their economy a while back? Resilient folks.

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:29 am
by windshieldbug
MaryAnn wrote:I see it was worth $3049 to someone in Japan.
Well, they may have spent $3K, but still all they'll get is a French tuba!
(there's a reason they don't use them any more... ) :shock: :D

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:41 pm
by k001k47
windshieldbug wrote:
MaryAnn wrote:I see it was worth $3049 to someone in Japan.
Well, they may have spent $3K, but still all they'll get is a French tuba!
(there's a reason they don't use them any more... ) :shock: :D
I've always wanted to give a French C a quick toot...
Does anyone in south Texas own one? :shock:

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:55 am
by J.c. Sherman
I would sell my mother into indentured servitude for that horn...

J.c.S.

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:45 am
by Nick Pierce
J.c. Sherman wrote:I would sell my mother into indentured servitude for that horn...

J.c.S.
Does that say more about the horn or your mother?

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:12 am
by MartyNeilan
If you reroute the leadpipe, you could have the first 6-valved Flugabone! (in C!!)
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Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:22 pm
by J.c. Sherman
the elephant wrote:Uh, guys… You all DO know that these play like crap, right? That is why they have mostly fallen out of use.
That explains why they were in use for so many decades... :lol:

"Different" isn't necessarily "Worse". I've played one. Hindemith was right...

"The old is good, not just because it's past,
Nor is the new supreme because we live with it..."

Or something close...

J.c.S.

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:57 pm
by windshieldbug
For a lark, they're interesting to play. Lark. "Interesting".

This from someone who used to honk seriously on an ophicleide.

They'd be NO FUN to use in a modern orchestra. Even if EVERY SECTION, INCLUDING THE STRINGS was willing to use smaller, softer instruments, they still take a lot of effort to learn and play in tune.

Even with their "strong nationalistic" tendancies, once the French orchestras and audiences heard Culbertson, they practically abandoned them overnight. And nobody was attacking them!

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:01 pm
by J.c. Sherman
I still want one. I'm opening a home for wayward French Tubas...

Poor, unwanted ones that no one loves.... :cry:

J.c.

P.S. What ophicleide did you have and where did you play?

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:50 pm
by windshieldbug
I restored an umarked C to working condition that was owned by the Streitwieser Foundation, which is now in Austria, but was then in Pennsylvania. I used it for contemporary ensembles, and also played the Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique a few times with the Delaware Symphony.

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:26 pm
by windshieldbug
Mostly strange... the kind of stuff you mean was written for a tenor tuba. While a French tuba is 6 valve is similar, it is descended from the C ophicleide, with additional valves to make it play lower. It has a very baritone-like sound up high, and a more bass-bone sound lower.

Only, it doesn't come with a handy seven position slide to make intonation adjustments. And it plays a lot more like a tenor bone straining to be a modern bass.

For the tenor tuba parts you mentioned, a proper tenor tuba or euphonium is the way to go.

Re: six valve french tuba

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:17 pm
by UDELBR
I thoroughly enjoy my Couesnon 6-valve French tuba. Sure, it's got its quirks, but what instrument doesn't? And of course its use is limited, just as a BAT's is (heresy; I know).

Sorta growing weary of the bashing. :?