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Re: Another helicon

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Belltrouble wrote: Eb or BBb
Don't forget F or CC.

There isn't enough information to say with any reasonable certainty. The only clue is that the seller seems to be saying it would fit in a 1m x 1m box, so it's pretty small. I'm going to put my vote in for F, but that's just a wild guess. Tuning standard would also be a mystery (440 A?)
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Re: Another helicon

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Belltrouble wrote:Hello folks found this one:




http://cgi.ebay.de/Tuba-Bauart-Helikon- ... 240%3A1318" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Any idea of the key??
Eb or BBb Kurt
Doesn't it say Es (Eb) in the description?
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Belltrouble wrote:The now given guess of being pitched in Eb wasn´t there yesterday...............

Kurt
I guess I didn't see it when it was first posted. They 'curly-cue' in the main looks like an afterthought. Maybe could be converted to high pitch rather easily... or maybe even F.
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Re: Another helicon

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My German isn't very good, but the Es in the description isn't a reference to the key, I don't think so, at least. But, the question posted certainly says it's in Es.
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Es is the solfa way of pronouncing letter names. My teacher has taught us that when we're using letter names, Bb is Bas, Ab is Aas, Db is Das, etc, and "is" means sharp-C# is Cis.
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Re: Another helicon

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eupher61 wrote:My German isn't very good, but the Es in the description isn't a reference to the key, I don't think so, at least. But, the question posted certainly says it's in Es.
Right, the Q/A is where the seller discloses that it's Eb, after some interested party decided to ask the seller, instead of Tubenet. Where "es" appears elsewhere, it's 3rd person singular pronoun, neutral gender.

The Q/A answer goes a little beyond my high school German - the words are easy, but the tortured circumlocution - it looks like the seller wants to give that "Eb" answer, but in such a way that it can't be traced back to him.
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Horn parts are often shown as being in Es, which means Eb. What's interesting is when you run into one in H basso.

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Re: Another helicon

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My point of "Es" earlier was seconded by Donn...Es in the description is NOT "E flat", rather a pronoun...essentially "it".
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